This
controversy about what Jesus said about the
sheep and goats
will not go away; it keeps popping up its contorted little head.
I first published this post about 10 years ago. It is now May of 2025, and I have, for the last several weeks, been looking at what I wrote
and updating it, because the topic came up once again. Admittedly,
much time has passed since this particular occurrence took place
(around
2015).
On
a particular Monday several years ago, at the men's morning bible
study, this was the leader's opening statement,
"..if
I am wrong with any of my statements, then you men stop me and
correct me."
He
then proceeded to say,
"As
we have been talking about, for weeks now, based on Dake's notes
(Finis
Jennings Dake, a man who began his ministerial career writing about
eschatology at age 19), concerning the Millennium, said,
"the
sheep we see in Matthew 25 are those who have helped Israel."
Our
church-approved bible study teacher
was sporadically a mathematics teacher at a local community college.
Before that, he taught high school math in a tough neighborhood (his
words),
so you might assume that he is adept at quelling loud and rebellious
talk. Therefore, anything we men, as a group, said or did was often
reacted to as rebellion. He slapped the table on several occasions
and stated, "That
is my opinion,
and I
don't care what you say."
What
is that supposed to mean?
If
it is not merely some arrogant mindset, then it is meant to
intimidate those endeavoring to renounce the incorrect support
scriptures and declarations that the "teacher" was using to
prove his point.
Later
that same week, I ran into one of the men who did not make the
morning study. I told him the primary topic that morning, and he
immediately began agreeing with the leader's thesis and got rather
protective of it. I tried to make him understand how and why this
understanding was incorrect, but he refused to hear what I perceived to
be the truth. The
thing that saddens me most is that there are many more people just
like this "Bible" teacher, espousing doctrines of demons, creating
confusion, and preventing people from finding the truth in God's
word.
How
do I know that he created confusion?
My
Father was an avid follower of this teacher, and when my mother died,
my Father, with tears in his eyes, asked us if Mom was in heaven. How
do you feel comfortable teaching grown men to doubt their
relationship with the Father? If
this premise bothers you, consider how
few of us open our Bibles and study God's word for ourselves.
If I can get you to trust that what I am saying is true, knowing full
well that you will NOT check for yourselves, then I can preach most
anything and pass it off as valid. This attempt at leadership
domination is especially effective if I can intimidate you by
slamming the table with my hand and suppressing those willing to
challenge me by raising my voice.
Here
is a clue to help you lead Bible study:
You
are a false teacher if you preach opinion and conjecture and
genuinely do not know the answer, or
cannot find at least two
scripture passages to validate your assertion.
Your
opinion may have a logical path, but it needs to be presented as such
and not verbalized as though it is the word of God and, therefore,
church doctrine.
Since it is your opinion, you need to allow for rebuttal because you
are going to get plenty of it, and deservedly so.
Back
to the presumptive statement in question:
"the
sheep we see in Matthew 25 are those who have helped Israel."
I
have looked intently, and there is nothing specific in scripture to back this statement up.
The leader feigned as though he was basing his understanding on Francis
Jennings Dake's Bible comments.
I
own a Dake's commentary Bible, and I do not see a clear statement that backs your assertion anywhere. (The
one pertaining to Gentiles, suffering through the seven years of
God's wrath, and how they will be those that Jesus described in
Matthew 25 when He elaborated on the sheep and goat judgment.)
Matthew
25:31
BSB: “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the
angels with Him, He
will sit on His glorious throne.”
If this were to be the defining moment for my thesis of judgment, based upon an understanding of glory
(Gk -doxa), then
I have failed, as doxa means to look for a sense of His reputation, praise, honor, splendor, perfection, and even rewards.
If you have pitched your case for an angry Jesus, that is NOT what
I see here.
The
other defining thing is the phrase, “He
will sit on His glorious throne.”
Jeremiah
3:17
BSB: “At
that time Jerusalem
will be called The Throne of the LORD,
and all the nations will be gathered in Jerusalem to honor the
name of the LORD. They will no longer follow the stubbornness of
their evil hearts.”
Jeremiah
defines when that time will transpire, however,
it does not support your argument about judging the nations
harshly, nor does it reinforce the idea of those from the nations
helping Israel. Look
at Jeremiah 3:14.
Jeremiah
3:14
BSB “Return, O faithless children,” declares the LORD,
“for I am your master, and I will take you—one from a city and
two from a family—and
bring you to Zion.
This
time period has more to do with bringing what is left of Israel to
Zion, the Holy City from which Jesus reigns during the 1000-years.
Psalms
47:7-9
BSB For God
is King of all the earth;
sing profound praises to Him. (8) God
reigns over the nations;
God
is seated on His holy throne.
(9) The
nobles of the nations have assembled as the people of the God of
Abraham;
for the shields of the earth belong to God; He is highly exalted.
Clearly,
Jesus,
during this time, will be seated on His holy throne.
The
most foolish aspect is that the leader tries to force a twisted
teaching upon us. I believe this is what the evil of this world
consider to be brainwashing. Conjecture, which is speculation mixed
with a touch of truth, is easily resolved if you are willing to pay
attention to the context, and Matthew 25 has a framework that starts
in Matthew 24.
Since
I directed us to consider the context, let us do that.
After
a series of very hostile confrontations with the Pharisees, the
disciples
were clearly shaken.
Not knowing what to say, they tried to direct Jesus' attention to the
obvious: the Temple, which was intact when they walked by that day.
Jesus
responded with:
"Do
you see all these things?" He replied. "Truly I tell you,
not
one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown
down."
(Matthew
24:2
BSB)
As
most of the disciples expected Jesus to be the warring messiah they
longed for, the next logical question for Jesus to answer is, when
will that happen?
Since
He just informed them that the Temple will be torn down, they have
little else on their minds.
"While
Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him
privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will these
things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the
end of the age?"
(Matthew
24:3
BSB)
The
question is a
two-part question,
and they knew it. Jesus' response to this challenge lasted 47 verses.
The
most important thing on His mind was deception, and not one time did
He mention sheep.
It
was not until Matthew 25, in the midst of these parables, that Jesus
elaborated about the sheep and goat judgment.
Matthew
25:32
CJB: "All
the nations will be assembled before him,
and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates
sheep from goats."
I
recognize that it
is the
nations that
are assembled before him.
If I consider that there are only three people groups in the world
right now – the
Jews, the nations, and the church,
then I also have to consider that historically, the nations were
nothing less than harmful to the nation of Israel.
Why,
then, would I assume that the
sheep, a product of the mid-East,
(Let
me remind you that the focus of this Jewish centric book we are
reading, called the Bible, is that it, in its entirety, is focused on
the nation of Israel and the Jews.)
would
support anyone associated with the nation of Israel?
Just
so you know, Ishmael is one of the beginnings of the nations.
Genesis
16:11-12
BSB The angel of the LORD proceeded: “Behold, you have
conceived and will bear a son. And you shall name him Ishmael,
for the LORD has heard your cry of affliction. (12) He
will be a wild donkey of a man, and his
hand will be against everyone, and everyone’s hand against him; he
will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”
The
assertion that the sheep are those that helped Israel during the time
of God's wrath makes no sense,
unless I am trying to base my argument on that one Samaritan (a
man that Israel deemed a gentile),
who took care of the Jew that had been beaten, robbed, and left for
dead on the side of the road.
Lacking
a strong Biblical backing, should
I exclude the possibility that the sheep, a subset of the nations,
are supportive of Israel?
No, but
since we find nothing to validate this assertion, it is not wise to
push it off on people as Biblical truth.
I
also find it ludicrous to think that all these people are air
breathers/alive.
Scripture
makes no distinction about whether they are breathing or not because
scripture substantiates that life
is centered on the spirit,
which is made in the image of God, the creator, and
cannot be killed.
As you can see from James, the brother of Jesus, the
body, lacking the spirit, is deemed to be dead, NOT the other way
around.
James
2:26
NASB: "For just as the
body without the spirit is dead,
so also faith without works is dead."
The
spirit of a human being cannot be killed, but it can, for some
people, be separated, permanently, from the creator, which
is what the
final judgment
and the lake of fire are all about.
However,
we have a problem in that we are
imposing a judgment before the final judgment.
Along
the vein of the nations allegedly standing before some questionable,
pre-judgment throne, we find some interesting references to wrath and
judgment in Psalms 110. The problem is that Psalms
110 does not mention the venue and method of judgment or how this
happens.
Psalms
110:5-6
NASB: "The Lord is at Your right hand; He
will shatter kings in the day of His wrath.
(6) He
will judge among the nations, He will fill them with corpses,
He will shatter the chief men over a broad country."
The
statement, "He will shatter kings in the day of His wrath,"
lends itself to what I see in Revelation 19.
Revelation
19:11
NASB “And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He
who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He
judges and wages war.”
We
know this is Jesus for several reasons.
The
entirety of the Revelation is a revealing of Jesus.
The
rider is titled by names identifying Jesus.
Jeremiah
42:5
NASB:
"Then they said to Jeremiah, 'May the LORD be a
true and faithful witness ..."
Revelation
3:14
NASB: "To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen,
the faithful
and true
Witness,
the Beginning of the creation of God, says this:"
So,
the titles of faithful and true are validated to be Jesus.
"...and
in righteousness He judges and wages war."
Psalm
110 shows Him,
in
the day of His wrath,
judging the nations, and shattering kings.
Shatter
is the Hebrew word mâchats,
and,
according to Strong's
concordance, it is only used 14 times. The
Word Study Dictionary
says it is "a verb meaning
to
wound severely, to pierce through, and to shatter.
This
word describes bodily destruction
and is best illustrated in Judges 5:26, where Jael pierced through
Sisera's head, from Temple to Temple, with a tent peg."
So
I can make a logical assumption, based upon scripture and educated
definition, that all
those who choose to fight against Jesus, as He rides in
upon His white horse, will be
shattered, wounded severely, and pierced through.
Consider
what Jesus did, and we are told He never sinned.
John
2:15
ISV: "After
making a whip out of cords,
he drove all of them out of the Temple, including the sheep and the
cattle. He scattered the coins of the money changers and knocked over
their tables."
Did
you happen to notice that Jesus came across as angry in John
2:15?
I
cannot read John
2:15
without seeing an intentional act, which, to me, equals sin. This
tells me that Jesus,
and by extension, God, can exhibit anger and wrath.
A
little bit of background. Many years ago, after several weeks of
giving "prophetic words" to the church body I belonged to,
I was met at the door by the pastor, who informed me that some
people in church decided
that I had made God sound angry. (Yes, that was a bit of a
crushing blow as I could see the spiritual growth going on in me;
and, yes, it seriously impaired my attitude toward that pastor.)
So
it is feasible that God can and does get angry; and, all of this,
despite passages in which God tells Moses to convey to the people
that His
character is love, mercy, and grace.
The
Monday morning Bible teacher, along with his eager followers,
appeared to relish the idea that harsh judgment is coming upon the
non-Christians here on earth as they migrate into the 1000-year
reign. (Although
the morning teacher falsely taught that NO ONE other than Christians
would go into the millennial kingdom. That
means that any of the nations that Jesus brings before Him, in this
alleged
judgment, will all be sent to a permanent, painful time of torture.)
I am not sure what the motivation is behind their desire for
permanent and painful justice, but I think most of us want to see
justice finally served, especially if we were the ones harmed by some
abuser.
If
you hope to witness God dishing out justice, you have a problem, for
Jesus on the cross brought forgiveness for everyone who accepts it.
As
followers of Christ, we will NEVER see what happens during God's
wrath, for we will be rejoicing with the Father in heaven.
Consider
that Jesus paid the debt owed for sin and took the punishment for all
sin on Himself when He went to the cross. This alone should subdue
your questions about people standing in judgment for anything,
especially for NOT helping the Jews during the time of wrath.
So,
let us assume that you maintain
that there will be a throne, other than the "great white
throne," at which the nations will be forced to come and stand
in judgment; and, this is, according to most, the narrative
that we see in Matthew 25, where we see the sheep and the goats. This
time of judgment, which we call the tribulation, comes to a crashing
halt with Jesus' arrival upon a white horse, as seen in Revelation
19.
Immediately,
with the entrance of Revelation 19, we see terminology, in the past
tense, pointing to the judgment of the great harlot/the prostitute.
Revelation
19:2
BSB: "For His judgments are true and just. He
has judged the great prostitute who corrupted the earth with her
immorality.
He has avenged the blood of His servants that was poured out by her
hand."
So
the time of wrath has ended; or has it?
The
passage tells us that the
time of wrath has shown us is that it was judgment,
and it
tells us against whom it was directed.
The
great prostitute, who corrupted the earth with her immorality.
And,
He/Jesus, has avenged the blood of His servants.
Who
does God include in this crowd of servants?
Israel,
and all those who, after the rapture, have come into the family of
God. The passage indicates that the
time of wrath has (past tense) avenged the deaths and harm to those
who have come to Him.
He
rules with a rod of iron, and yet, there is no explicit throne of
judgment with Jesus sitting on it.
Revelation
19:11-15 ISV:
"Then I saw heaven standing open, and there was a white horse!
Its rider is named Faithful and True. He
administers justice and wages war righteously.
(12) His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are
many royal crowns. He has a name written on him that nobody knows
except himself. (13) He is dressed in a robe dipped in
blood, and his name is called the Word of God. (14) The armies
of heaven, wearing fine linen, white and pure, follow him on white
horses. (15) A
sharp sword comes out of his mouth to strike down the nations.
He
will rule them with an iron rod
and tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty."
Well,
there it is, "He administers justice and wages war righteously";
yet, NOT
once do we see Jesus seated at a throne of judgment.
Since
he comes with a sword and fights against anyone choosing to withstand
Him, this, too, is judgment. However,
that is not what you were looking for, is it?
Revelation
19:15 tells us that the
sword that comes out of His mouth strikes down the nations.
Do
you see a decisive statement that spells out anything close to a
total annihilation of all those among the nations?
It
is NOT there.
Revelation
19:19
NASB: "And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their
armies
assembled to make war against Him
who sat on the horse and against His army."
What
is peculiar is the amount of time it might take for ALL the armies to
assemble to make war with Jesus, and why would Jesus "waste"
that much time merely to kill everyone on earth.
Remember,
the original premise seems to have been for a vast slaughter of the
nations, called before some "throne", where only a handful
of people who helped the Jews through the time of wrath, obtain mercy
and entrance into the 1000-year reign.
Does
any of that sound like a throne of judgment being set up so that He
can drag the nations before Him, where He supposedly sends them off
to an eternal hell?
After
this moment, we are told He
will rule them with an iron rod. Ruling with a rod of iron sounds
like an ongoing affair, not a solitary moment of permanent torture
and punishment.
Just
recently, a brother in Christ and a Jew, who has a YouTube site
called Nehemiah's
Wall,
spoke of having a discussion with a
Theologian, who wholeheartedly believes that many souls, which the
Bible calls righteous men, and includes Old Testament saints, such as
King David, are already in hell.
The premise, I suppose, is that David had Uriah, the Hittite, killed
to alleviate some of David's guilt over having an adulterous
relationship with Uriah's wife. This is an provocative line of
thought, especially when God calls men, like David,
a man after His own heart, and someone like Lot is deemed righteous.
(You
can read the scandalous story surrounding Lot in Genesis 19.)
As
far as people go, who get punished with everlasting judgment, we
are only told of two humans who precede all others in going to hell,
and we see them in Revelation 19:20.
Revelation
19:20
ISV: "The
beast
was captured, along
with the false prophet
who had performed signs on its behalf. By these signs the false
prophet had deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and
worshiped its image. Both
of them were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with
sulfur."
So,
the only two "humans" that receive eternal punishment are
the beast (the antichrist) and the false prophet
(FYI:
The Muslims have prophecies about "the false prophet." For
them he is our Jesus, but he is described as one having all the legal
qualities of a Jewish high priest.)
Furthermore, these
two men are thrown there immediately after the seven-years.
I
am painfully aware that there is a significant argument, which will
try to convince you that there are people in hell already. This
narrative concerns the rich man and Lazarus, the beggar. Here is the
pertinent portion of scripture.
Luke
16:22-31
NASB: "Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels
to Abraham's bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried. (23)
"In
Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and *saw Abraham far
away and Lazarus in his bosom. (24)
"And he cried out and said,
'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may
dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am
in agony in this flame.' (25) "But Abraham said, 'Child,
remember that during your life you received your good things, and
likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and
you are in agony. (26) 'And besides all this, between us and you
there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over
from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from
there to us.' (27) "And he said, 'Then I beg you, father, that
you send him to my father's house-- (28) for I have five brothers--in
order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this
place of torment.' (29) "But Abraham *said, 'They have Moses and
the Prophets; let them hear them.' (30) "But he said, 'No,
father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will
repent!' (31) "But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to
Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone
rises from the dead.'"
Chasm,
or
fixed space,
the Greek word is chasma.
It is from
a form of an obsolete primary “chao” (to “gape”
or “yawn”); a “chasm”
or vacancy
(impassable interval.)
I
find it interesting that ('Doctor')
Luke, is passing along what he believes to be accurate information.
Do you ever find yourself thinking, this is second hand information
and subject to miscommunication? I am not trying to say that the
Bible is corrupted and not to be trusted; I am merely making a strong
recommendation to study the Bible for yourselves.
Sadly
lacking
knowledge and a desire to learn, we merely take the words offered by
translators, in this case, the NASB, as the final piece of
information necessary for our understanding. Do not ever assume that
to be the case. Merely assuming prohibits you from being able to
answer questions as I have posed below.
How
did the rich man know that it was Abraham comforting Lazarus?
Did
you assume that the rich man was aware of the fixed gulf?
If
so, why would he think Lazarus could cross it?
Why
was Lazarus in comfort, not bothered by the heat?
Did
it occur to you that the rich man was attempting to use the same
arrogance against Lazarus that he used in life?
The
NASB
appropriately uses the Greek word hades,
whereas the KJV calls it hell.
The New
American Standard Exhaustive Concordance tells
us that hádēs
is merely the
abode of departed spirits.
The
Word Study Dictionary conveys
the idea that it is also an
obscure and dark place.
With
this added information, it is
presumptuous to assert that Hades is the place of punishment, or that
anyone is there as their punishment. It is merely the abode of
the dead.
Question?
Prior
to the cross, where did the righteous dead go?
Since
the narrative about the beggar Lazarus informs us that he was a
righteous man, we know that he was merely resting with Abraham in the
place of departed spirits. There is a fixed gulf and, especially for
some, discomfort. However, lacking a final white throne of judgment,
there is nothing to cause us to inappropriately elaborate on whether
people are perpetually sent to an early, torment.
The
rich man was clearly in torment.
(a
conundrum for the Jews as they associated riches with righteousness,
implying that the rich man should not have been in discomfort.)
If it was dark, he could at least see Abraham comforting the beggar.
It is NOT a world in which you cannot see.
Torments
is Greek word básanos.
The NASEC gives us a surprising definition: a
touchstone (a
dark stone used in testing metals).
The first thing that comes to mind is the great black stone in Mecca,
which is the goal of Muslims everywhere as they go on pilgrimage.
Strong's tells us it is through
the notion of going
to the bottom, by
analogy, torture. Torture is NOT Hades' original focus.
Is
the discomfort meant to adjust the attitude?
Because
of the cross, Jesus was able to say this:
Revelation
1:18 NASB
“and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive
forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.”
So,
apparently, those who went to Hades were held there until they were
released. Because of Jesus' actions, the apostle Paul was able to say
of the believer, to be absent from the body is to be present with the
Lord. Amen!
Look
at this clarity.
Revelation
19:19-21
NASB: (19) “And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and
their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse
and against His army. (20) And the
beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the
signs
in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark
of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these
two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with
brimstone.
(21) And
the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him
who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their
flesh.”
This
concludes chapter 19. You do realize that the origins of scripture
had NO chapters and verses. Consider what happens next.
Revelation
20:1-3 NASB:
"Then
I saw an angel coming down from heaven,
holding
the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.
(2) And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the
devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; (3) and he threw
him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so
that he would not deceive the nations any longer,
until
the thousand years were completed;
after these things he must be released for a short time."
Still,
no judgment by Jesus on a great throne.
However,
Revelation 20:4 talks about thrones;
perhaps
there is one specifically for Jesus, and He might judge from there.
Rev
20:4: "Then
I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them.
And I saw
the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony
of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not
worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on
their forehead and on their hand;
and
they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Who
are the "they" referenced here?
They
are the martyred saints from the time of God's wrath. There is no
accusatory tone, berating, or judgment, yet
they are simply installed upon these thrones so that they can reign
with Jesus.
How
do I know that?
The
passage tells us that "they"
came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The
fact that they reigned for a thousand years indicates that this all
started after the seven years and lasts through the thousand years.
It is a logical assumption, but a good one, because the passage tells
us that they
reigned with Christ,
and we know that Jesus reigns over the millennial kingdom for the
thousand years.
How
swiftly will the previously martyred be set upon these thrones?
It
could occur in the blink of an eye or as long as He deems necessary;
I say this because the astute can see gaps in the timing of
eschatological events.
No matter how long it takes, there is no doubt in my mind that this,
too, is judgment.
Consider
this input from the prophet Daniel.
Daniel
7:9-10
BSB: "As I continued to watch,
thrones
were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took His seat.
His clothing was white as snow, and the hair of His head was like
pure wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all
ablaze. (10) A river of fire was flowing, coming out from
His presence. Thousands upon thousands attended Him, and myriads upon
myriads stood before Him. The
court was convened, and the books were opened."
Daniel's
words say nothing of who is brought before Him, and there is nothing
to indicate the result of these books being opened.
Consider
a few pieces of information.
Revelation
20:12 BSB “And I saw the dead, great and small, standing
before the throne. And there were
open books, and one of them was the Book of Life. And the dead were
judged according to their deeds, as recorded in the books.”
These
are very similar words to what we can see in Daniel's prophetic
vision.
Daniel
7:11 BSB “Then I kept watching because of the arrogant
words the horn was speaking. As I continued to watch, the
beast was slain, and its body was destroyed and thrown into the
blazing fire.”
John,
the beloved, continues.
Revelation
20:15 BSB “And if
anyone was found whose name was not written in the Book of Life, he
was thrown into the lake of fire.”
So
it is possible to have your name in one or several of “the books”,
and yet, NOT have your name in the Book of Life. This also tells me
that both, the bad and the good things are written down. Suddenly, I
am extremely grateful that Jesus paid the price for (all) sin,
otherwise I would be doomed based upon my ugly judgments alone.
Daniel
proceeds.
Daniel
7:11-12 BSB: "Then
I kept watching because of the arrogant words the horn
was speaking. As
I continued to watch, the beast was slain, and its body was destroyed
and thrown into the blazing fire.
(12) As
for the rest of the beasts,
their
dominion was removed, but they were granted an extension of life for
a season and a time."
Note
what Daniel had said earlier.
Daniel
7:7-8
BSB After this, as I watched in my vision in the night,
suddenly a fourth beast appeared, and it was terrifying—dreadful
and extremely strong—with large iron teeth. It devoured and
crushed; then it trampled underfoot whatever was left. It
was different from all the beasts before it, and it had ten horns.
(8) While I was contemplating the horns, suddenly
another horn, a little one, came up among them,
and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This
horn had eyes like those of a man and a mouth that spoke words of
arrogance.
This
idea of ten horns, although we don't call them horns, is kingdoms and
global powers, many of which are part of the World Economic Forum/New
World Order. Remember, Jesus only fights and kills those who actively
stand in battle against Him. Much of this NWO group gladly let others
mindlessly fight for them, while they collect the spoils of their
wars.
The
horn,
referenced above, is
the antichrist;
however, it only tells us that the "beast" was slain, its
body destroyed, and thrown into the blazing fire. Note verse 12:
"...As
for the rest of the beasts,
their dominion was removed, but they were granted an extension of
life for a season and a time."
When
it comes to additional beasts, this has to be referring to allies and
followers of the Beast. Some will try to make the distinction that
the judgment comes from Jesus in Matthew's account, while it is God
in the book of Revelation.
I
beg to differ, as the entire book
of Revelation is about Jesus, and you see that in Revelation chapter
1, verse 1. Therefore, this is Jesus pouring out the wrath and
judgment upon the people still left upon the earth. This is laid out
in scripture.
By
the way, none of the people standing before the glorious throne for
the final judgment enjoyed the benefit of being caught up in the
snatching away of the church, which included dead (non-breathing)
believers. When dead believers get caught up, they are, for some
reason, reattached to their former bodies. Moments later, we find
them in heaven, before God, and they are recognized as tribulation
saints.
Another
point to reckon when considering the context.
Matthew
25:31
CJB: "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, accompanied by all
the angels, he
will sit on his glorious throne."
Revelation
20:4 clearly lays out how the martyred saints rule and reign with
Christ for the thousand-years, but
verse four NEVER specifically states that Jesus sits on a throne;
again it is a logical assumption. Nor do we see Jesus in judgment
over anybody during this time. If, as many long to project, Jesus
stands in judgment over the nations prior to 1000 years, but that is
NEVER spelled out for us.
While
the idea of Jesus coming in his glory is spread across multiple
sources, there is only one place where he will sit on his
glorious throne,
the final throne of judgment,
which Revelation
20
calls the great white throne. Either way, this
is the only place where people are judged and sent to eternal
punishment.
So, when I put the phrase, "..the Son of Man comes in his
glory," together with the final judgment, it is easy to see that
Matthew 25 and Revelation 20 are the same events.
What
kind of problems does this understanding cause us?
In
Matthew,
Jesus is represented as the loving
shepherd,
while Revelation
reveals Him as the angry
God
who brings final justice.
Can
we see Jesus as angry and bringing wrath?
Certainly.
Matthew
25:41
CJB: "Then he will also speak to those on his left, saying, 'Get
away from me, you who are cursed! Go off into the fire prepared for
the Adversary and his angels!"
Since
the sheep, who obtain mercy, are on the right, then these are the
goats and are destined for what the Amplified Bible calls "the
eternal fire
prepared for the devil and his angels!"
What
is the contrast comparison of Revelation 20?
Revelation
20:12
CJB: "And I saw the dead, both great and small, standing in
front of the throne. Books were opened, and another book was opened,
the Book of Life; and the
dead were judged from what was written in the books, according to
what they had done."
It
happens everywhere you go, whether in Bible study or church; the
assumption is made that everyone we see in Matthew's account is
alive, and we disassociate these dead from the nations when we read
Revelation. Maybe we can quell our arguments if we consider that just
a few verses prior, Satan deceives
the nations and then God kills them.
Revelation
20:8
CJB: "and will
go out to deceive the nations
in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to
gather them for the battle.
Their number is countless as the sand on the seashore;"
So
the nations, which, only a short time ago were alive, are now dead,
standing in judgment.
Revelation
20:9 CJB:
"and they
came up over the breadth of the Land and surrounded the camp of God's
people and the city he loves.
But
fire came down from heaven and consumed them."
If
I wanted to make the statement that someone from the nations showed
Israel some practical help, as the Bible study leader asserts, I do
not see that here; we see
them surrounding the city and God's people for harm.
Revelation
20 and Matthew 25 show the judgment and finality of that decision,
adding to the evidence that they were the same incident.
Revelation
20:10
CJB: "The
Adversary (the
devil)
who
had deceived them was
hurled into the lake of fire and sulfur, where the beast and the
false prophet were;
and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
Even
at this point we only see three entities: Satan, the beast and the
false prophet.
Matthew
25:41 CJB:
"Then he will also speak to those on his left, saying, 'Get away
from me, you who are cursed! Go off into the
fire prepared for the Adversary and his angels!"
Matthew
25:46
CJB: "They will go off to
eternal punishment,
but those who have done what God wants will go to eternal life."
A
third and final comment on context.
When
you dig deeper Dake's notes direct the reader to Matthew 13:24-43.
Here many translations titled that section of scripture The
Parable of the Weeds. So, let us examine how the parable
compares with Matthew 25 and Revelation 20.
The
Parable of the Weeds Explained
Matthew
13:24-43
CJB
Jesus
is speaking, and He is the same person in our parallel passages from
Revelation 20.
Why
is that important?
We
are looking for prophetic validation and similarity. The context
is the kingdom of heaven, which is found in every instance. While I
have not defined the field, I can logically assume that it is the
nations. Unquestionably, Matthew 25 says that he calls the nations to
him, but can
we say that about Revelation 20?
The
answer is yes, and we know this from the context, which initiates
around Revelation 20:8, where Satan draws the nations to surround the
city of God—the New Jerusalem.
"and
will come out to
deceive the nations
which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather
them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the
seashore. "
(Revelation
20:8
NASB)
In
God's timing, justice has been served,
and a tremendous amount of time is spent telling us all
that God is doing to the earth's inhabitants during this
time of wrath and judgment.
I
understand how Matthew 25 can throw your religious teachings and
traditions concerning faith and works right out the window. At the
least, it challenges our thinking, and no, I do not have the
strongest handle on it yet. However, I have come to understand that
God
is in control, not me.
Therefore, he gets the final word, and my judgments have to step
aside. This control is precisely what Jesus was talking about when he
told the parable of the man who hired people for the vineyard at the
beginning of the day, and some were employed at the last minutes of
the day. It did not matter to the owner, for they all got paid the
same. These, we see in Matthew 25, did nothing religious, as many of
us have, and therefore did not pay the price we paid, like perhaps
Jim Elliot did, with his life, and yet, they still gained entrance
based upon giving someone a drink of water or feeding another. It
boils down to their lack of selfishness in those moments.
I
have never been good at gambling, so placing my hope in a good deed
seems like too large a gamble for me. No, life is not a gamble; it is
all about faith and trust; therefore, I put my trust and faith in
Jesus Christ. He proved himself trustworthy and gave himself for me.
Because I love him, I give myself to him, and that gives me hope.
There is no gamble to it; it is merely trust.