A voice in the wilderness

What you will find here are thoughts and commentary on what I happen to be studying. As for me, I have two daughters who have grown up without me. Education wise, I have two AS degrees, one being in Horticulture, but no bachelors degree. The longest time spent at any one job was 15 years. Sadly, I have not been the great success I had dreamed I would be, but I find that I am becoming more content as my relationship with the Father God grows. God's word is my passion.

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Sunday, May 26, 2024

Did God give the nations to the angels? Deuteronomy 32:7-9.

I listened “briefly” to a speaker on YouTube as they stated that Deuteronomy 32, verse 8, in the Greek Septuagint, tells how God gave the nations to the angels of God.

It is statements like this that prompt me to dig into the scriptures to prove or disprove if what they say is true. If it is true, then what are we supposed to do with this information? By the way, most of us cannot read nor understand the Septuagint Greek and would, therefore, be out of the loop and incapable of proving that something like this assertion is true or false. I happen to have a lexicon on my Bible program and was able to struggle through it by making comparisons to the Strong's numbers.

Before we begin our commentary, let's summarize the biblical verses we'll be discussing. These verses have a significant association with Genesis 6 and the sons of God.

“Remember the days of old, Consider the years of all generations. Ask your father, and he will inform you, Your elders, and they will tell you. "When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, When He separated the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples According to the number of the sons of Israel. "For the LORD'S portion is His people; Jacob is the allotment of His inheritance.”
Deuteronomy 32:7-9 NAS95

Let's consider several other translations of verse 8 before we move forward.

The New King James version reads like this:

“When the Most High divided their inheritance to the nations, When He separated the sons of Adam, He set the boundaries of the peoples According to the number of the children of Israel.”
Deuteronomy 32:8 NKJV

An object of confusion is the interpretation of “ He set the boundaries of the peoples According to the number of the children of Israel.” The variety of renderings reads like this:

“according to the number of the children of Israel.” WEBA
“according to the number of the heavenly assembly.” NET Bible
“under the care of divine guardians.” The Message
“By the number of the sons of God [or sons of Israel].” LSV
“He assigned to each nation a heavenly being.” GNB
“He made as many nations as there are angels.” ERV
“according to Israel's population.” CJB

Enough of this speculation, as you should be able to ascertain that the variety of possibilities is painfully large, and most of those leaning toward angelic involvement as a direct assignment from God are typically the least reliable translations. The context directs me to focus on Israel, so when it refers to some group called “their,” I can know that the verse is talking about the Jews and Israel.

Friday, March 24, 2023

The Magi, what did they want, and why were they demanding answers from Herod?

The next thing we encounter in Matthew's gospel is,

The Visit of the Wise Men

“Now, after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod, the king, magi from the east, arrived in Jerusalem, saying, "Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”
(Matthew 2:1-2 NASB)

The Magi, what did they want, and why were they demanding answers from Herod?

One brother in Christ, who is very skillful in the Word of God, explained that one of the roles of the Magi was to be kingdom changers (Consider that this knowledgeable man had to look at extra-biblical information not contained within the pages of the Bible to make his valid assertion. I only point this out because a “brother in Christ” verbally lashed out at me, saying I do not believe that we should use extra-biblical texts and information to form our thoughts about God and scripture.) The Magi were the group of men that Daniel, as a young man, had been assigned to and eventually became the head of while remaining a captive in Babylon.

Seeing the size of the entourage and perceiving a threat to his power, Herod went into panic mode and called the chief priests and elders before him to tell him what they knew about this situation.

“When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. Gathering together all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he inquired of them where the Messiah was to be born.”
(Matthew 2:3-4 NASB)

“When Herod the king heard this.” What did he hear?

“ Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”

Since when has the Middle East changed so that you can merely gather up a large, armed crowd and go rolling up to another kingdom’s gates unannounced and immediately expect an audience with a king known to live in fear?

It hasn't, and so I don't expect that was the case here, but the word was received and taken to the king. Now, what does the fearful man do? He consults the people who most likely know the corresponding answer, the Jews, as they should know the prophecy.

All prophecy, like a criminal court case, must have two or three witnesses; one of those witnesses is found in the Book of Daniel. It is not likely that Herod, being a half-Jew, would have studied Daniel chapter seven, as it plays a significant role in testifying to what the angel declared to Mary as he explained the function of the child that she carried.

"He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and His kingdom will have no end.”
(Luke 1:32-33 NASB)

So, no, Herod would not know these words that we see in Luke’s gospel as they were written long after Herod’s death, and that makes his fear and the lack of reaction by the elders even more peculiar.

The Magi, on the other hand, may have studied Daniel's words with intensity.

“I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And was presented before Him. "And to Him was given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations and men of every language Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away, And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed.”
(Daniel 7:13-14 NASB)

The reply of the Jewish elders is alarming to me.

“So they told him, “In Bethlehem of Judea, for so it has been written by the prophet: ‘And you, Bethlehem, land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; For out of you shall come a ruler who will shepherd My people Israel.’”
(Matthew 2:5-6 TLV)

They knew the answer to the question, but do we have any record that they went there and bowed before this new king?

Not at all. Herod responds to this by double-checking. Perhaps because even Herod could see that these magi were taking this king being born seriously, and he called them in to speak with them.

“Then Herod secretly called the magi and determined from them the exact time the star had appeared. And he sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and search carefully for the Child. And when you have found Him, bring word back to me so that I may come and worship Him as well.”
(Matthew 2:7-8 TLV)

With terminology such as “determined from them the exact time,” Herod now has a ballpark idea of how old this new king is; and nothing will happen until they come back to Herod and give him the word of exactly where to find the child. Watch what the magi do.

“After listening to the king, they went their way. And behold, the star they had seen in the east went on before them, until it came to rest over the place where the Child was. When they saw the star, they rejoiced exceedingly with great gladness.”
(Matthew 2:9-10 TLV)

These magi had not yet found the child, but they will. They will not go back to Herod for the child's protection. Notice where the family is now living.

“And when they came into the house, they saw the Child with His mother Miriam; and they fell down and worshiped Him. Then, opening their treasures, they presented to Him gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. And having been warned in a dream not to go back to Herod, they returned to their own country by another way.”
(Matthew 2:11-12 TLV)

Never once do you see the number three. What you do see are three specific names: gold, frankincense, and myrrh. A key word here is treasures, as the quantity may have been great and enough to sustain the family for several years. We, because of the age bracket that Herod orders killed, would logically assume the age of Yeshua to be about two as they take off to the safety of Egypt.

“Now when they had gone (the magi), behold, an angel of Adonai appears to Joseph in a dream (so he has had a couple of these over the last few years), saying, “Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is about to search for the Child, to kill Him.” So he got up, took the Child and His mother during the night, and went to Egypt. Now when they had gone, behold, an angel of Adonai appears to Joseph in a dream, saying, “Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is about to search for the Child, to kill Him.” So he got up, took the Child and His mother during the night, and went to Egypt. He stayed there until Herod’s death. This was to fulfill what was spoken by Adonai through the prophet, saying, “Out of Egypt I called My son.” Then when Herod saw that he had been tricked by the magi, he became furious. And he sent and killed all boys in Bethlehem and in all its surrounding area, from two years old and under, according to the time he had determined from the magi.”
(Matthew 2:13-16 TLV)

Astronomy.com tells us that “On the morning of August 12 in 3 B.C ., Jupiter and Venus would’ve sat just 1/10th a degree apart in the dawn sky. That’s one-fifth the diameter of the Full Moon. (The December 2020 conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn will have an identical separation, albeit in the evening sky.) That wasn’t the end of the show, either. Venus and Jupiter continued their dance over most of the next year before finally appearing to merge into a single star in June.”

So approximately August of C.5, Christ was born. (I am still not clear. If time is based on this dramatic change called Jesus birth, all I wanted or needed was a time frame that I could start with. If this is based upon Christ, it would seem that this timeline information puts the starting point at five months. An obvious fact is that He was NOT born at six months old, we also know that the shepherds were with their flocks, and that tends to put His birth far enough into the season for shepherds to be working the flocks comfortably in the hillsides.) At the age of two, his family takes him to Egypt to protect him. History (and I must admit this is rather sketchy) records that Herod died around April 4 B.C.; therefore, it would seem that the family was only in Egypt for slightly over a year. The presumption then is that Jesus was brought back to Nazareth when He was four or five.

Why is this information important?

First, this has never been clear in my head, and that may be because no one ever talked about it. Secondly, questions occasionally arise about Jesus from toddler to maturity, which in the Jewish culture seems to be about age 13, a time when the sons are required to step up and learn their fathers' trade. Three, I made the mistake of reading Kahlil Gibran's book Jesus, the son of Man. The title alone should tell you something about the lack of understanding and possible disrespect the man had for Jesus. A point that Mr. Gibran tried to make was that Jesus may have been a malicious brat, as he allegedly injured animals and then healed them. Sorry, but that did not sound right then, nor does it sound right now.

After the incident where the family, while in Jerusalem, had to go looking for Jesus, a 12-year-old child, they found Him in the temple where He had been for two days, with the Jewish leaders, discussing the scriptures. Remember, all they had were the law and the prophets, and they were precious and expensive scrolls that only the richest of synagogues had copies. So learning was almost exclusively through repetitious hearing.

A problem with this entire process. If your child had a disability, would you focus on that, merely enabling that they lean upon that disability, or would you focus on their ability? In Jesus' case, He, by those who knew about His birth, would have been called a mumzer – an illegitimate child and those same people had a long history, based on the law, that allowed them to treat a child like this poorly.

As far as I can see, Jesus, had He been known, would have been violently expelled from the temple. An answer to this lies in the outer courts of the temple, as these were accessible to even the gentiles.

The final thought on this tells us that after His parents found Him, and I am sure they expressed their displeasure at Him being lost, is that Jesus submitted Himself wholly to their wishes until He was old enough, able to take care of Himself and act on His own accord. I am thinking now of Mary. As the eldest son, Jesus would have probably been the one to care for her after Joseph died. Keep in mind that Mary continued to have other children, and several of them, including sisters, may have taken that role.

We don't see support from the other family members, nor do we hear anything about siblings until the day that they came to restrain Him – so to speak.

“When His family heard about this, they went out to take hold of Him; for they were saying, “He’s out of His mind!”
(Mark 3:21 TLV)

He conflicted with the 600+ added-on Jewish laws, but He was amazingly kind to the down and out while excoriating the scribes and the Pharisees.

“Then His mother and brothers come. Standing outside, they sent word to Him, summoning Him. A crowd was sitting around Him, and they tell Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are outside looking for You.” Answering them, He said, “Who are My mother and My brothers?” Looking at those sitting in a circle around Him, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of God, he is My brother and sister and mother.”
(Mark 3:31-35 TLV)

If Mary (Miriam) had not been the surrogate mother of Jesus, we would probably never hear of her either.

I decided to post this, even though it is not, in my mind, done. I do not elaborate on this merely to convince you to think negatively about Jesus; just the opposite is true. If you happen to be one that thinks that every God aspect was little more than some high-speed download, I think that is illogical and works in opposition to His mission here on earth. Remember, He came as man and defeated Satan as a human.

We have learned that Joseph, "his father," was a righteous man. Some translations refer to Joseph as a good man. To be deemed a righteous man indicates that he was known among the synagogue crowd as one that took notes (just kidding) and paid attention. Because of this, he fastidiously practiced the scriptures with Jesus.

So, how did Jesus become so knowledgeable?

Joseph, his foster father. Let that sink in.

If you do not know my Jesus, He is as close as your breath. Merely submit yourself to the greater power and ask Him into your life, then watch the changes begin to happen because the Holy Spirit has now entered, permanently, and will begin teaching you all things and showing you things to come.

If the rapture has come, there will be no denying when that happened. (Yes, I know that the government has put it off on aliens taking the "bad" Christians off the earth.)

If the church is gone, all hell will begin to break loose.

Constant rioting in the streets and death will come from multiple directions.
Those you thought would be on your side and protect you will be trying to kill you.
Injections will be mandated that are intended to kill you.
Efforts to monitor your every move will be demanded.
The earth and the water supplies will be poisoned. The oceans will be filled with death.
Commerce will come to a halt.
The economies will become digital and tightly controlled, but will all, in a matter of time, collapse.
This time on earth, as seen in Revelation six and beyond, will include God's anger against unbelieving humanity and the Jews who rejected God.

Within days of the Church being removed, the antichrist persona will come to the forefront. If you have access to a Bible (it will be a forbidden book,) you can read about the emergence of the antichrist.

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and (then) that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition," (2 Thessalonians 2:3 Geneva)

Yes, I Americanized the old 15th-century wording, and yes, most translations use the phrase falling away. Just this morning, 3/11/23, I saw that the Church of England is now teaching four-year-old children, in their Sunday school class, about transitioning and perverted sex education. Try to convince me that we, the church, have not fallen over the cliff already.

There is only one hope; it is Jesus, and if nothing else, make your life with Him personal.

Trust me, once He touches your heart, you will want to tell someone about Him.

Thursday, March 31, 2022

Una vez más, estas son preguntas y/o afirmaciones que he escuchado a lo largo de los años, pero esta serie de preguntas en particular venía bajo la apariencia de “Me gustaría hablar sobre Apocalipsis 21 y 22.

Sus preguntas y desafíos.

Me siento con varios grupos de hombres y de vez en cuando surgen problemas como este. El problema es que los intentos de responder una parte clara de la pregunta siempre parecen generar otro hilo de pensamiento, interrumpiendo el mío y llevándonos por un camino de conejo no relacionado. Al responder así, puedo evitar esos rastros de conejos no productivos.

Mi respuesta inicial fue así. Nunca trato de luchar sin afilar mi espada. Dicho esto, escribe tus preguntas y demás y me las envías.

Esto es lo que recibí.

1. El tiempo del cielo y la tierra nuevos cuando Dios establezca su reino. Siempre creí que esto era después de la eliminación de todas las personas pecadoras. pero estos capítulos hablan de ser digno y de lo que hay dentro y fuera de la ciudad. afuera hay asesinos y cosas por el estilo .

2. " Acerca de la tierra dice que el valle se llenará y la montaña se hundirá sin ver más. En Lucas la tierra que pereció en el diluvio. Una nueva tierra creció de la destrucción de la vieja. ¿Por qué mi mente siempre ha imaginado el universo se borra como una pizarra cuando leo nuevos cielos y tierra. Podría argumentar que renacerá después de algún tipo de purificación y que, de hecho, ese sol 🌞 desaparecerá para siempre. Pero se parece al hombre, al bien y al mal. permanecerán incluso después de la nueva Jerusalén".

Mi respuesta a la pregunta #1.

No estás solo en tu creencia, con suerte anterior. El “ maestro de la Biblia ” del lunes por la mañana solía martillar esta falsa enseñanza, entre otras, en los cerebros de los hombres que se presentaban. Creo que todavía se adhiere a sus creencias retorcidas. Según el estándar de este hombre, nadie más que los creyentes entrarán en el reino milenial. Lleva su opinión un paso racista más allá e inapropiadamente excluye a los judíos.

Lo siento si esto revienta tu burbuja, pero como aparentemente te has dado cuenta, los judíos sobrevivientes y aquellos de entre las naciones que han resistido entrarán al reino milenario . Por definición judía, las naciones son cualquiera que NO sea judía. No solo eso, sino que aquellos entre las naciones que tienen hijos durante este tiempo, tienen la libertad de NO adorar a Dios y, por lo tanto, dentro de lo razonable, actuar de la manera que elijan. La gran diferencia entre ahora y entonces es que nosotros, los creyentes, seremos inmortales/eternos y, por lo tanto, no seremos dañados , pero aquellos entre las naciones sí. La violencia NO será tolerada y será suprimida más rápido de lo que pueden parpadear. Habrá paz.

Isaías 4:3 LBLA “ Acontecerá que el que fuere dejado en Sión y el que permanezca en Jerusalén será llamado santo , todos los que estén inscritos de por vida en Jerusalén”

Otro fuerte reproche a los que optan por NO creer.

Isaías 10:20 LBLA “Ahora bien, en aquel día el remanente de Israel, y los de la casa de Jacob que hayan escapado , nunca más confiarán en el que los hirió, sino que verdaderamente confiarán en el SEÑOR, el Santo de Israel. ”

Me queda claro que los judíos serán los evangelistas si así hay que llamarlos, y ellos, entre otros, traerán la sanidad y el cambio que les permita la entrada a la nueva Jerusalén, que viene a través de las hojas de los árboles de la vida. .

Las naciones caminarán a su luz, y los reyes de la tierra traerán su gloria a ella. De día (porque allí no habrá noche) sus puertas nunca se cerrarán, y traerán a ella la gloria y el honor de las naciones, y nada inmundo, y nadie que practique la abominación y la mentira, entrará jamás. en él, sino sólo aquellos cuyos nombres están escritos en el libro de la vida del Cordero. ( Apocalipsis 21:24-27 LBLA)

Zacarías habla de las naciones que vinieron contra Jerusalén viniendo a la nueva Jerusalén.

Entonces acontecerá que todos los que queden de todas las naciones que fueron contra Jerusalén, subirán de año en año para adorar al Rey, al SEÑOR de los ejércitos, y a celebrar la fiesta de las cabañas. ( Zacarías 14:16 NVI)

Pregúntate a ti mismo, ¿cómo estos, de entre las naciones, entenderían todo lo que sucederá en la Fiesta de Sukkah, o tabernáculos, como decimos los gentiles?

Alguien tendría que enseñarles. ¿Quién mejor que los judíos que tienen conocimiento de la ley?

Ezequiel 44:10-11 LBLA "Pero los levitas que se alejaron de mí cuando Israel se descarriaba, los que se descarriaron de mí en pos de sus ídolos, llevarán el castigo por su iniquidad. (11) " Sin embargo, serán ministros en mi santuario , teniendo vigilancia a las puertas de la casa y sirviendo en la casa; degollarán el holocausto y el sacrificio por el pueblo, y estarán delante de ellos para servirles .

Entonces, por estos pasajes, sabemos que las naciones y los judíos estarán allí; entre ellos, o parte de ellos, estarán los inmundos, los que practican abominaciones y los mentirosos. Dudo en incluir el versículo ocho, ya que esto podría aplicarse fácilmente a los muertos anteriores, antes del reino milenario. Pero piénsalo, el pecado no tiene calificativos y, por lo tanto, esta multitud podría incluir a los descritos en el versículo ocho.

Antes de seguir adelante y continuar con esta discusión sobre la tierra quemada con fuego, piense por un momento conmigo. Para un ser humano, este fuego que purgará la inmundicia de la tierra también debería purgarla de la humanidad. Dado que Dios es misericordioso más allá de nuestro entendimiento, entonces no puedo ver que eso suceda hasta después del gran trono blanco.

Si te estás preguntando por qué en este momento, solo piénsalo; después de este juicio, todo pecado es purgado, no solo de la tierra, sino de toda la creación, incluido el universo. El cielo y la tierra serán como debían ser; y aunque no puedo imaginar cómo será eso, será serenidad.

La segunda de sus preguntas también me deja perplejo, pero ¿por qué?

Si la tierra es quemada con fuego durante los siete años de la ira de Dios, entonces, ¿cómo es posible que haya sobrevivientes, incluidos los 144.000 hombres judíos que vemos apartados en Apocalipsis 7:4? Tenga en cuenta que estos 144.000 no pueden ser dañados por los juicios de Dios, y eso debería incluir cualquier quema de la tierra.

¿Por qué quemar todo?

Tal vez porque la tierra está contaminada. Muchos plásticos tardarán 10.000 años en descomponerse, pero vaporizar esos mismos plásticos, que están por todas partes, no debería llevar mucho tiempo.

Obviamente, deshacerse de los contaminantes es una ventaja, pero ¿qué pasa con la contaminación que la humanidad trae consigo, como los materiales de desecho tóxicos?

No parece lógico atacar a la humanidad, especialmente si Jesús tomó todos los pecados sobre Sí mismo en la cruz y pagó todas las deudas que teníamos. Así que purgar a la humanidad obviamente no es el objetivo, pero purgar a la humanidad impenitente podría serlo.

¿Qué en el Apocalipsis se purga con fuego o se quema?

Uno de nuestros ejemplos más destacados proviene de Apocalipsis 19.

Y vi a la bestia ya los reyes de la tierra y sus ejércitos reunidos para hacer la guerra contra el que montaba el caballo y contra su ejército. Y fue apresada la bestia, y con ella, el falso profeta que hacía las señales en su presencia, con las cuales engañaba a los que habían recibido la marca de la bestia ya los que adoraban su imagen; estos dos fueron arrojados vivos al lago de fuego que arde con azufre.
( Apocalipsis 19:19-20 LBLA)

¿Quién entonces, en este punto , es arrojado al lago de fuego?

Satanás, la bestia y el falso profeta. Nadie más es arrojado al lago de fuego. Nuevamente, esto NO es lo que muchos enseñan. Ah, pero nota, el resto de los que vinieron a la batalla con Jesús fueron asesinados a espada. Una suposición interesante, pero incorrecta, que hacemos las personas religiosas, es que Jesús mata a todos los de las naciones. Una vez más, permítame recordarle que esta Biblia nuestra es un libro centrado en el judaísmo, por lo que las naciones, para el judío, incluyen a la comunidad cristiana.

Mientras que son contendientes de las naciones, aquí dando batalla, ¿vienen todos y, por lo tanto, son asesinados por Jesús?

No. El versículo anterior te dice quién muere en esta batalla con Jesús: la bestia; los reyes de la tierra; sus ejércitos, y los reunidos para hacer la guerra contra Jesús . Ahora, aunque mamá y los niños pueden odiar a Jesús, los judíos y la gente del Libro (la Biblia), NO son asesinados a menos que decidan unirse a la lucha.

Así que volvamos a esta idea de que todo en la tierra se está quemando.

Tal vez aquí es donde todos se brindan porque hay un ángel a cargo del fuego.

Entonces salió del altar otro ángel, el que tiene poder sobre el fuego ; y llamó a gran voz al que tenía la hoz afilada, diciendo: Mete tu hoz afilada y corta los racimos de la vid de la tierra, porque sus uvas están maduras. ( Apocalipsis 14:18 NVI)

Pero, ¿qué hace?

Llama a otro, que tiene una hoz, y ese ángel comienza a ejecutar una orden desconcertante. Se le dice al ángel: " Mete tu hoz afilada y corta los racimos de la vid de la tierra, porque sus uvas están maduras " .

Asumiría que somos las uvas y que estamos maduros, algo así como la novia, listos para el novio. Pero ese no es el contexto y en los versículos 19-20 vemos que estas uvas trituradas son representativas de la sangre que fluye a través del valle de Megiddo, profunda como sus bridas, por 200 millas. Claramente, se nos muestra la ira de Dios, pero Él lo hizo sin fuego.

Entonces el ángel clavó su hoz en la tierra y cortó los racimos de la vid de la tierra, y los echó en el gran lagar de la ira de Dios. Y el lagar fue pisado fuera de la ciudad, y salió sangre del lagar hasta los frenos de los caballos, por una distancia de doscientas millas. (Apocalipsis 14:19-20 NVI)

¿Cómo hicimos la transición del fuego a la hoz?

Es el ángel que tiene poder sobre el fuego el que está llamando al que tiene una hoz afilada, y él es el que está juntando los racimos.

Entonces, ¿dónde entra en juego el fuego?

La próxima vez que vemos fuego es en Apocalipsis 16, y está quemando a la humanidad.

El cuarto ángel derramó su copa sobre el sol , y le fue dado quemar a los hombres con fuego. ( Apocalipsis 16:8 NVI)

A lo largo de la Biblia, usted ve declaraciones, como todas estaban allí. Si usara a Daniel como un ejemplo de esto, mostraría cómo a TODOS se les ordenó inclinarse y, sin embargo, Daniel no se inclinó porque NO estaba allí.

Simplemente porque Apocalipsis 16:8 nos dice que fue dado para quemar a los hombres , no significa todos, porque, aquí nuevamente, NADIE sobreviviría.

¿Todos los que van a la playa se queman severamente con el sol?

¿Si no, porque no? Porque muchos se esfuerzan por esconderse del Sol y sus efectos.

También bajo los juicios de las copas.

El primer ángel derramó su copa y se convirtió en una llaga repugnante y maligna en las personas que tenían la marca de la bestia y adoraban su imagen. Los estudiantes de la Biblia deben comprender de inmediato que este es el lugar más lógico en la línea de tiempo de los eventos y, por lo tanto, la segunda mitad de los siete años de la ira de Dios.

En Apocalipsis 16:3 vemos al segundo ángel l derramando su copa en el mar, y se convirtió en sangre como de muerto, y murió todo ser viviente que había en el mar.

El tercer ángel derramó su copa sobre los ríos y sobre las fuentes de las aguas, y se convirtieron en sangre.

Y oí al ángel de las aguas decir: Justo eres tú, el que eres y el que eras, oh Santo, porque juzgaste estas cosas; porque derramaron la sangre de los santos y de los profetas, y les diste a beber sangre. . Ellos lo merecen."
( Apocalipsis 16:5-6 LBLA)

"Porque han derramado la sangre de los santos y de los profetas", ¿ quién hizo esto ?

Bueno, si conoces tu Biblia, entonces también sabes que esto está hablando de los escribas y fariseos en Israel, y también está apuntando a la élite global del mundo.

Volvamos al fuego/abrasamiento de los humanos.

Los hombres se quemaron con el feroz calor, y blasfemaron el nombre de Dios que tiene poder sobre estas plagas, y no se arrepintieron para darle gloria.
( Apocalipsis 16:9 NVI)

Algunas personas pueden pensar en quemado en términos de una quemadura de sol. La palabra griega kaumatizo traducida como chamuscado también significa quemar . Si estuviera cocinando, este trozo de carne probablemente sería basura en este momento.

“ Por tanto, una maldición devora la tierra, y los que en ella habitan son declarados culpables. Por tanto, los moradores de la tierra son quemados, y quedan pocos hombres .” ( Isaías 24:6 NVI)

Un par de palabras clave en Isaías 24.

“ y los que viven en él serán declarados culpables”.
“ Por tanto, los moradores de la tierra son quemados, y quedan pocos hombres ”

Note algo de Apocalipsis 16:9.

Los hombres fueron quemados con un calor feroz; y blasfemaron el nombre de Dios que tiene poder sobre estas plagas, y no se arrepintieron para darle gloria. ( Apocalipsis 16:9 NVI)

Quemados con un calor feroz, blasfemaron el nombre de Dios y no se arrepintieron. Obviamente, el abrasamiento NO era de muerte para todos, sino que estaba destinado a llevarlos al arrepentimiento.

En Isaías cuarenta y dos el contexto es Israel.

Derramó, pues, sobre él el ardor de su ira y el furor de la batalla; Y le prendió fuego por todos lados, Mas él no lo reconoció; Y lo quemó, pero no prestó atención . ( Isaías 42:25 NVI )

No tenga dudas, Dios trae Su fuego sobre los que no se arrepienten, y lo vimos en la historia de Lot. Elías es otro.

Elías respondió al capitán de cincuenta: "Si soy un hombre de Dios, que descienda fuego del cielo y te consuma a ti y a tus cincuenta". Entonces descendió fuego del cielo y lo consumió a él y a sus cincuenta. ( 2 Reyes 1:10 NVI)

Y, Dios, durante el comienzo de los siete años de la ira, pondrá a Sus dos testigos en las calles de Jerusalén, quienes arrojarán fuego por la boca, entre otras cosas.

Aprecié las preguntas ya que me motivaron a mirar cosas como el fuego, como parte del escenario del fin de los tiempos, más a fondo, y debo decir, todavía no veo la tierra inundada de fuego. El fuego es innegable y se asocia principalmente con el lago de fuego. Desde un punto de vista científico, si el Sol estaba actuando, como parece, entonces ¿por qué no podría ser una supernova y destruir todo lo que estaba cerca? ahí podría ser a donde va esto, sin embargo, la purga final de la contaminación de la tierra parece más efectiva entre el gran trono blanco y una eternidad completamente purgada de pecado.