That the angels, that remained subject to God and heavens laws, do not participate in sexual activity.
One of our primary pieces of evidence that these were fallen angels comes from an interaction between God and Satan, found in the book of
Job.
“Now
there was a day when the
sons of God (the
righteous ones)
came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among
them.
The LORD said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan
answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth,
and from walking up and down on it.” And the LORD said to Satan,
“Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on
the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away
from evil?” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “Does Job fear
God for no reason?”
(Job
1:6-9
ESV)
Some
obvious things you might have picked up on, as Satan - who the
Revelation describes as being thrown out of heaven, is meandering
about in the heavenlies with the angels that did not fall, is that he is there and nothing no one is doing much to challenge him.
Satan
doesn't seem to care if he is welcome or not, and so what do we see?
Satan shoves himself right up near the throne to get God's
attention.
God
asks Satan a question.
Does
God ask questions because He is lacking answers?
Never, and so we can think of these inquiries as forensic – as He
is studying the words you say and the manner in which you respond.
You cannot lie to God.
How
did Satan respond to God's question, Have
you considered my servant Job?
Well, of course, he had, and it was probably the basis for his being there
in heaven, among the sons of God, of which he was still considered to
be one. Consider the response of the disciples after being sent out. (This sending happened
on two occasions: In Mark 6:7, it was only the twelve, but in Luke
10, the number being sent out was seventy. On
both occasions, they were sent in pairs.)
“The
seventy-two returned with joy, saying, “Lord,
even the demons are subject to us in your name!”
And he said to them, “I
saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”
(Luke
10:17-18 ESV)
Satan
didn't just trip and fall out of heaven, he was thrown out.
“A
war broke out in heaven. Michael
and his angels were fighting against the dragon and its angels. But
the dragon lost the battle. It and its angels were forced out of
their places in heaven and were thrown down to the earth. Yes,
that old snake and his angels were thrown out of heaven! That snake,
who fools everyone on earth, is known as the devil and Satan. Then I
heard a voice from heaven shout, "Our God has shown his saving
power, and his kingdom has come! God's own Chosen One has shown his
authority. Satan accused our people in the presence of God day and
night. Now he has been thrown out! Our people defeated Satan because
of the blood of the Lamb and the message of God. They were willing to
give up their lives. The heavens should rejoice, together with
everyone who lives there. But pity the earth and the sea because the
devil was thrown down to the earth. He knows his time is short, and
he is very angry." When the dragon realized that it had been
thrown down to the earth, it tried to make trouble for the woman who
had given birth to a son. But the woman was given two wings like
those of a huge eagle, so that she could fly into the desert. There
she would escape from the snake and be taken care of for a time, two
times, and half a time. The snake then spewed out water like a river
to sweep the woman away. But the earth helped her and swallowed the
water that had come from the dragon's mouth. This made the dragon
terribly angry with the woman. So it started a war against the rest
of her children. They are the people who obey God and are faithful to
what Jesus did and taught. The dragon stood on the beach beside the
sea.” (Revelation 12:7-18 CEV)
So
the life-changing question that people ask is, When
did Satan get thrown out of heaven?
Logic
would tell you that this happened somewhere between Genesis 1:1 and
the serpent showing up in the garden.
Genesis
2:2 indicates that God felt everything was done and good, but
it was good once before and then not.
The prophet Isaiah tells us that God made it perfect, to begin with.
“For
thus says
the LORD, who created the heavens (he is God!), who formed the earth
and made it (he established it; he did not create it empty, he formed
it to be inhabited!):
“I am the LORD, and there is no other.”
(Isaiah
45:18
ESV)
So
when I read a verse like Genesis 1:2, I can see that something
cataclysmic
happened.
“The earth was
without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.”
(Genesis 1:2 ESV)
Well, Genesis 1:2
may have been the result of Satan's being tossed to earth.
Were
there any people other than Adam and Eve on earth?
The
answer is a strong maybe. Look, you put a young, naked man and
woman in the most spectacular of settings, and they will find a
multitude of things to explore ( if you get my hint.) Didn't you ever notice that God said
to Eve, after the fall, now
you will have pain in childbirth?
Why
would He say that if she had never had children?
Give
me a break; they had many. And, if all they knew was what Adam, their
papa, said and acted like, then they, too, were Godlike. I know this
opens a large “can-o-worms,” but try not to let your mind melt
over this.
Then
why didn't the serpent – Satan go after one of the others?
Because,
in the long run, Satan
was going specifically after “God's” creation, those who had been given dominion over the earth, Adam and subordinately, Eve.
“And God said,
"Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness; and
let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and
over the fowl of heaven and over the livestock and over all the earth
and over every creeping thing that crawls upon the earth."”
(Genesis 1:26 AFV)
Dominion
is the Hebrew word râdâh
and means to tread
down,
subjugate,
have
dominion over,
prevail
against,
and most importantly, have
rule
over.
Adam
had been given command over this planet, and just like Jesus, he only
did what the Father told him, except for that moment in the garden.
In that brief moment of time, he handed the entirety of the planet
over to Satan by following his wife's lead.
Now,
if you read Genesis 1:26 attentively, you noticed that there is a
plurality inferred, and you would be right, but God does not put a body
on the man until Genesis 2:7, and then He only formed one of the two;
so conversations about making humanity was all in the spiritual
mode until He put flesh on them. All the instructions pertaining to
this dominion were given specifically to the man, who, in time,
informed Eve once she had been made.
If
you can understand what I have just told you, then you will better
understand what took place when the Serpent said to Eve, did
God really say that?
Satan
was trying to put a rift between God and Adam, Adam and Eve, and
eventually all humanity that could never be repaired. In that
masterful move, Satan sowed seeds of doubt, deceit, lying, and an
unending heap of trust issues.
Oh,
about that rift that could never be repaired.
The laws that make this
universe run are moral laws created and put in place by God himself.
Therefore, the only one who could pay the price that justice
demanded was God himself, and He did so by sending His Son, Jesus. He
also bypassed an inherent problem we have had since the garden, and that
is our
built-in sin mode.
Jesus did not have that, as He was not a creation of either man or woman and was, therefore, sinless. Jesus, being sinless, is the
thing that Satan did not count on. So this irreparable rift was not
too big of a problem as long as you have a sinless God-man to take your
place, and Jesus did just that.
Back
to this paragraph,
“the
sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they
took as their wives any they chose.”
Having
established that these “sons of God” were fallen angels that fell
when they followed Satan in his folly, then they were taking the
daughters of men, anybody at any time, as they chose. And I don't
think they cared about looks (even though the passage, as though the
writer had interviewed them, says they noted the attractiveness of
women) as they
were trying to manipulate the human genome even further.
Hold that thought for a moment.
We live in a day when science is
consistently modifying or attempting to modify the human genome. The
American Department Of Defense (under
the guise of DARPA)
has been doing it for years as they try to create super soldiers.
Since the ingesting of that fruit changed the human genome and
instilled a propensity within us to sin, it permanently damaged the DNA strain that was the base
origin of humanity. Every human from that moment forward has that same damaged marker. If
that be the case, then when science began looking at DNA, they saw a
commonality in every human strand compared. This damaged marker, for which they
cannot find a purpose, becomes an expected marker in all of humanity.
I
know most translations are using delicate wording so that you cannot
easily pick up on the offense of the word "took." Perhaps we could say
they were merely grabbing these women, or shall I say abducting,
whomever, whenever, they wanted. These fallen angels may not have
copulated with their victims in the manner to which we are
accustomed, but the scriptures tell us that they did it.
Do
we have anything bizarre like this happening today?
Unfortunately,
yes, we do. If you are into the paranormal, a Christian brother named
LA. Marzulli writes books and speaks at conferences about demonic
abductions. By the way, those that have withstood these encounters
have only done so because they possessed ownership of the name of Jesus
Christ because they had accepted Christ into their lives at some point, and they used it against what was happening to them.
LA
Marzulli, along with others, like Brian Forester, have pursued
unexplainable oddities, such as elongated skulls – that have had
their DNA tested, and, though in this case found in Paracas, Peru, had
parentage leading the researchers back to the Middle East and NO known earthly being.
Let's
assume that you don't believe me at this point. Let me ask you a
question;
Can
you accept the Bible as non-challengeable?
I
am not talking about known errors or translation disputations, of
which there are many, but I know that God's unchanging moral
authority runs through the entirety of scripture. I also know that
there is nothing of note in the New Testament that cannot be
validated by prophetic words in the Old Testament. Our standard for
proving this comes from the Law.
“One
witness shall not rise against a man for any iniquity, or for any
sin, in any sin which he sins. At the mouth of two witnesses, or at
the mouth of three witnesses a thing shall be raised up to judgment.”
(Deuteronomy 19:15 LITV)
So,
no matter whether it is a law matter or the validation of God's Word,
it can and should be validated by scriptural witnesses.
I
brought up the possibility that Adam and Eve had other children. How
do you explain that?
Time,
as we understand it, began that day in the garden.
If you wish to say the earth is only ten thousand years old, basing the presumption of time from the garden event makes all the sense in the world. Sin, death, and rebellion in the lives of humans all came out of the garden and the eating of that fruit.
What else happened that day? If you foolishly said that the plan of redemption began that day. To a degree, you would be right, but do you seriously think that God was caught off guard and had to come up with a plan now that the two people you have been close to for an untold amount of time will come to an end. Knowing that Satan would rebel and, in a way, take out God's man, Adam, the plan to recover His creation and entirely eliminate Satan came into being long before we were a thought –
and based upon what King David said, you knew me before time began.
So children born outside of the garden do not fall under the category of sin, as sin, it would seem, became a genetic issue. The logical course would follow the change that began as the parents damaged their genetics and then passed that along to any children that followed.
If they were outside of sin through genetics, then why would they have to be “judged” alongside everybody else?
Good question, and maybe they are not. Consider that the fallen angels are given no recourse for their mutiny; perhaps those children which were not affected by tainted genetics sustained damage, just as the creation did and cries out for the day of their redemption.
“All
of creation waits with eager longing for God to reveal his
children.
For
creation was condemned to lose its purpose, not of its own will,
but because God willed it to be so. Yet
there was the hope that creation itself would one day be set free
from its slavery to decay
and would share the glorious freedom of the children of God. For we
know that up to the present time all of creation
groans with pain,
like the pain of childbirth. But it is not just creation alone
which groans; we who have the Spirit as the first of God's gifts
also groan within ourselves as we wait for God to make us his
children and set our whole being free.” (Romans
8:19-23 GNB)
So,
anyone born outside of the garden was still affected by what
happened there, just as the entirety of the earth was.
Some would say, how would those born outside of the garden know about
salvation?
Well, first off, who was their daddy? Yep, Adam. Adam told
Eve, and he also told them as well.
I
told you that the garden and its sin were the basis of the world we
live in. That moment in the garden initiated the prophetic insertion
of Jesus into humanity and the plan of redemption's calendar.
Did
you, as you read, pick up on the fact that the method of momentary
relief from sin came through appropriate sacrifice?
God,
on the same day as the conversation in which He told Eve that one of
her seed would crush the serpent's head, killed
animals
- adequate enough to make appropriate coverings, and He showed Adam
how to make sacrifice using those same animals. Do not assume that
Adam had been stripped of his title; therefore, he was still meant to
take dominion.
“for
the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.” (Romans
11:29 NASB)
Testimony from the
Old Testament.
“God is not a man
who lies, or a son of man who changes his mind! Does He speak and
then not do it, or promise and not fulfill it?” (Numbers 23:19
TLV)
That
meant he was still in the chain of command for the redistribution of
information. Since we DO NOT see any mention of those born outside of
the garden, the most logical assumption is that they fell and went out of
fellowship with God, as Cain did.
If you can't handle the idea that
there were others born outside the garden and wish to hold to a
chronological reading of the scriptures, then
where did Cain get the idea that there were others, as violent as he,
waiting to kill him?
“Since
You expelled me today from the face of the ground and I must be
hidden from Your presence, then I will be a restless wanderer on the
earth—anyone
who finds me will kill me!””
(Genesis
4:14
TLV)
Another
bizarre anomaly also follows Cain as he went to a
city
(?) and
found a wife
(?). Keep in mind that we are trying to follow a chronological pattern.
So, Cain, then, would have to wait for Mom and Dad to produce a
daughter that he could have.
But
who was next to be born?
Seth, a “righteous” son. Try to imagine how long you might have
to wait before a sister was born that you could have for a wife. A
bizarre train of thought, but so is the logic.
Then
Cain left Adonai’s presence and dwelled in the Land of Wandering,
east of Eden. Cain
was intimate with his wife,
and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. And he was building
a city, and he named the city after the name of his son, Enoch.
(Genesis
4:16-17
TLV)
Assuming
that we have eliminated the possibility that children born outside of
the garden could have been called the sons of God, then
the only beings left, as we have pointed out when we looked at Job,
are the fallen angels.
One
of the boisterous arguments against the angels procreating with humans is that angels have no male organs and, therefore, have no sex. This is based on this passage, where the Pharisees, who were
always trying to trap Jesus, brought up a scenario in which a woman
is passed through the family members, much like a sex slave, to
produce children with the family name.
“In
the resurrection, when they (these
family members who each had her)
rise again, whose wife will she be? For the seven had her as wife.”
Jesus said to them, “Is this not the reason you are wrong, because
you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God? For
when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in
marriage, but are like angels in heaven.”
(Mark
12:23-25
ESV)
Luke's
gospel conveys this theme.
“In
the resurrection, therefore, whose wife will the woman be? For the
seven had her as wife.” And Jesus said to them, “The sons of this
age marry and are given in marriage, but those who are considered
worthy to attain
to that
age
and
to the resurrection from the dead
neither
marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot die anymore, because
they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the
resurrection.”
(Luke
20:33-36
ESV)
At
the moment, we live in the age of grace; this age will come to an end
with the removal of the church. At that point in time, those of us in
heaven become a part of a term that I have come to despise, that “new
age,”
where we will be married to Christ, the groom. We
will be like the angels
in that they are eternal. We will be the Sons and Daughters of God
that we were designed to be. Stop here. Our spirits are already
eternal as we have been made in the image of God – an eternal
spirit, and as such, we will merely go on living with our Father. Our
relationship with Jesus moves us into what we call the
body of Christ.
So, in a sense, we are already married to the Lamb. The angels, who
also have free will, for the most part, know their duties and place – and it does not include sex. Satan, his name was Lucifer, decided
to supplant God, an act that exceeded the limits of his position. He
managed to convince a third of the uncountable number of angels to
follow him in this rebellion.
Did
their spirits die?
No.
Many of them were locked up in chains, as they, in their rebellion,
became very dangerous. They will be cast into outer darkness, along
with Satan and those who choose to follow him, to the place where
there is gnashing of teeth, fire, and perpetual anguish.
The
scripture leaves no one out, and the flooding killed everything that
walked on land and breathed air, that includes half-breed angels,
referred to as Nephilim. The giants died, but scripture tells us that
they came back after the flood.
"The
Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward,
when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore
children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of
renown." (Genesis 6:4 NASB)
This
can be attested to by Joshua and Caleb's testimony upon their foray
into Canaan and David's killing of Goliath. Because we have very few
records of Titans upon the earth, anymore, then I would suggest that
the fallen angels changed their techniques and game plan.
So,
the question is, who will you
willingly be married to?
There
are only two options, Jesus or Satan.