A while back, I was asked several widespread questions. I separated the person's writing into assertions and questions, and this is my response.
You asked, “... does anyone else see some resemblance in the description of the rapture and the events at the crucifixion?”
While this first response may not sound so astute, I think it needs to be said,
At the catching away of the church, the “rapture,” the redeemed go up.
The rapture has a limited purpose in that Jesus, at this point, is simply coming, in the clouds, to collect those who are His. The other aspect of the “rapture” is the rescue of the living believers from any further harm. This comment feeds into the disputations against a pre-wrath rapture.
You need to get something very clear if you are going to push your broken understanding of an “escape” from wrath, as believers in the African nations have been having their heads cut off for attending church. Those people might be firm in the idea that we must endure deadly tribulations. The problem is that when you use these dear people to bolster your arguments, you are setting aside the understanding that there will always be injustices carried out by the hands of other humans.
The “great tribulation”, which many believe we are discussing, is an aspect of God's wrath.
If you struggle with the belief that we, as the church, are meant to endure God's wrath, consider these scriptures.
But
since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on the
breastplate of faith and love, and the helmet of our hope of
salvation. For
God
has not appointed us to suffer wrath,
but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1
Thessalonians 5:8-9
BSB
Wrath, in Greek, is the word orgē. It means anger exhibited in punishment.
Several internet teachers I listen to will say something along these lines. Since Jesus is the Bridegroom coming back for His bride, that is us, the Church, then why would He abuse His bride before the most anticipated time, their wedding night? There is no logical answer to a question like this, and passages such as 1 Thessalonians 5:8-9 tell us that it will not happen in an abusive manner.
One "brother in Christ" angrily told me that God will not pour His wrath upon the earth. If so, what do you do with passages like this?
Stay far away from a false accusation. Do not kill the innocent or the just, for I will not acquit the guilty.
Exodus 23:7 BSB
The
LORD is slow to anger and great in power;
the LORD will by no means leave the guilty unpunished.
His path is in the whirlwind and storm, and clouds are the dust
beneath His feet.
Nahum
1:3
BSB
Since the subject of the crucifixion was introduced, let's address an aspect of the work that Jesus performed on His journey from the cross to the throne.
Sin, originating in the garden, demanded a price be paid, and it was the death of God. Satan thought he had God in a checkmate, to use a chess term. You see, God set up this earth based on moral laws, His own, and by giving Adam dominion, God placed the man, as a representative of HIs throne, in control of the earth. So, in deceiving the humans, he deceived God, and God would have to pay with His life. If you are puzzled by this, I suggest you watch The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe by CS Lewis again. That was not going to happen, so Jesus voluntarily set aside His position and authority to become a man (In the movie, Jesus is represented as a lion), and He would pay the price. This man, Jesus, was the seed of a woman, a descendant of Eve, and Satan thought that the killing of Jesus would put him solidly in control of all creation.
And
I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed
and her Seed; He will bruise your head, and you shall bruise His
heel.
Genesis 3:15 MKJV
There are variations in the translations of Genesis 3:15. For example, enmity, an old English word that can also mean hostility, antagonism, ill will, and hatred. Interestingly, the Hebrew word êybâh was only used four times in the Torah, and two of those times, it was translated as hatred. So hatred works just as well.
Many of these passages speak of God being slow to anger; however, this does not imply that the inhabitants of the earth and those who reject His love will not experience His wrath.
God, in speaking about Sodom and Gomorrah, demonstrates His wrath but without first showing mercy toward Lot and his two daughters.
“Then
the generations to come, both your own descendants and the foreigners
who come from distant lands, will see the devastation of the land and
the diseases the LORD inflicts on it. They will exclaim, ‘The whole
land is devastated by sulfur and salt. It is a wasteland with nothing
planted and nothing growing, not even a blade of grass. It is like
the
cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim,
which
the LORD destroyed in his intense anger.’
Deuteronomy
29:22-23
NLT
Follow the narrative found in Deuteronomy 9, and you will find that God, in His anger, killed over 3000.
“Remember
and never
forget how angry you made the LORD your God out in the wilderness.
From the day you left Egypt until now, you have been constantly
rebelling against him. Even
at Mount Sinai, you made the LORD so angry he was ready to destroy
you.
Deuteronomy
9:7-8 NLT
Let's say you still don't see why God would pour out His wrath upon people; then pay attention to the words of 2 Kings 22:13.
“Go
to the Temple and speak to the LORD for me and for the people and for
all Judah. Inquire about the words written in this scroll that has
been found.
For the LORD’s great anger is burning against us because our
ancestors have not obeyed the words in this scroll. We have not been
doing everything it says we must do.”
2
Kings 22:13
NLT
If you are asking what we did to deserve God's wrath, Daniel has the answer.
But
we have sinned and done wrong. We
have rebelled against you and scorned your commands and regulations.
We have refused to listen to your servants the prophets, who spoke on
your authority to our kings and princes and ancestors and to all the
people of the land.
Daniel
9:5-6 NLT
Do you think God's heart has changed since He spoke these words?
“Son
of man,” he said, “I am sending you to the
nation of Israel, a rebellious nation that has rebelled against me.
They and their ancestors have been rebelling against me to this very
day.
Ezekiel
2:3
NLT
Even in the New Testament, we can see God's wrath coming and to whom.
But
regarding
Israel,
God said, “All
day long I opened my arms to them, but they were disobedient and
rebellious.”
Romans
10:21
NLT
In speaking with Daniel, God referred to what is to come as the time of wrath.
Then he said, “I am here to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath. What you have seen pertains to the very end of time.
Daniel 8:19 NLT
So, the time of wrath is coming.
For I will shake the heavens. The earth will move from its place when the LORD of Heaven’s Armies displays his wrath in the day of his fierce anger.”
Isaiah 13:13 NLT
This period in which God pours out His wrath has several names,
The time of wrath.
The time of the end.
The appointed time.
The end of time.
The time when the mystery of God is finished.
Until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
The hour of His judgment.
The day of the Lord's wrath.
A day of trouble and distress.
A day of destruction and desolation.
A time of distress.
What is the purpose?
Near
is the great day of the LORD, Near and coming very quickly; Listen,
the day of the LORD! In it the warrior cries out bitterly. A day of
wrath is that day, A
day of trouble and distress, A day of destruction and desolation, A
day of darkness and gloom, A day of clouds and thick darkness,
A day of trumpet and battle cry Against the fortified cities And the
high corner towers. I
will bring distress on men so that they will walk like the blind because they have sinned against the LORD;
And their blood will be poured out like dust And their flesh like
dung. Neither their silver nor their gold Will be able to deliver
them On the day of the LORD'S wrath; And all the
earth will be devoured In the fire of His jealousy,
For He
will make a complete end, Indeed a terrifying one, Of all the
inhabitants of the earth.
Zephaniah
1:14-18
NASB
"But
they refused to pay attention and turned a stubborn shoulder and
stopped their ears from hearing. "They made their hearts
like flint so that they could not hear the law and the words which
the LORD of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets;
therefore great wrath came from the LORD of hosts.
Zechariah
7:11-12 NASB
Pour
out your wrath on the nations that refuse to acknowledge you—on the
peoples that do not call upon your name. For they have devoured
your people, Israel; they have devoured and consumed them, making the
land a desolate wilderness.
Jeremiah 10:25 NLT
As
we have seen, this theme runs throughout the Torah.
That means
that the Pharisees and scribes knew all too well that God's wrath was
coming and why.
When John, the baptizer, said to them, "You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?" They knew precisely what he was talking about.
So
he began saying to the crowds who were going out to be baptized by
him, "You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath
to come?
Luke 3:7 NASB
Paul, in writing to:
The church in Rome.
For
the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and
unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God
made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His
invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been
clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that
they are without excuse.
Romans
1:18-20
NASB
To the church Colossae
Put
to death, therefore, the components of your earthly nature: sexual
immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires, and greed, which is
idolatry. Because of these, the wrath of God is coming on the sons
of disobedience.
Colossians 3:5-6 BSB
To the church in Thessalonica
For
they themselves report what kind of welcome you gave us, and how you
turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God and to
await His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead—Jesus
our deliverer from the coming wrath.
1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 BSB
But
since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on the
breastplate of faith and love, and the helmet of our hope of
salvation. For God has not appointed
us to suffer wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus
Christ.
1
Thessalonians 5:8-9 BSB
By the time we reach chapter four of Revelation, we are already caught up with Christ and with the Father.
The final church of the seven is Philadelphia. It was to them that Jesus said,
'Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
Revelation 3:10 NASB
Revelation 4:1 opens with this.
After
these things I looked, and behold, a door opened in heaven; and the
first voice that I heard was as if a
trumpet were speaking with me, saying,
"Come up here, and I will show you the things that must take
place after these things."
Revelation 4:1 AFV
What things is He talking about?
The end of the church age and our being gathered to the Father in Heaven.
In Revelation 6, Jesus began opening the seals of the first scroll, which is why we see those on earth crying for the rocks to fall upon them.
And
the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the
chief captains, and the powerful men, and every bondman, and every
free man hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the
mountains; And they said to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall
on us, and hide us from the face of
Him Who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb.
Revelation 6:15-16 AFV
If we can find Jesus seated upon His throne, how did he get here?
This question is answered when you study what happened from the cross to the throne, and we will do that in the next post.
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