Showing posts with label pre-tribulation. Show all posts
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Monday, February 9, 2026

We need to have an enthusiasm for the rapture. Scriptures to back up a pre- tribulation rapture.

 This, like so many things I write, began with a conversation. In this case, it turned out to be one-sided. It ended with the other person telling me that discussions about the rapture are filled with fallacies, and comparable to eating a cupcake, nutritionally pointless. So much for our morning get-together with some of the guys from church.

Fast forward about 10 years, and I recently found myself in Costco trying to get a prescription for a new pair of glasses. As I stood outside the office talking with my wife, a man walked by wearing a Christian warrior T-shirt. Moments later, a man seated near me had a humorous conversation with his wife that gave him away as a Christian. I assumed that this was the Holy Spirit's nudge to walk through this open door in which I might be able to say something encouraging about Jesus and His soon return to catch us away.

Immediately after I said, Wouldn't it be something if the five of us just suddenly disappeared in the rapture? The seated man immediately scoots forward, turns slightly left so as if to be facing me, clears his throat, and proceeds to rebuke me by saying, “There is NOTHING in scripture that convinces me that we can expect a rapture of the church, and therefore I do not believe we should be talking so openly and boldly about such things.”

To be honest, any passages that might have come into mind flushed right out of my head, and that man was immediately called into the optometrist's office.

At that moment, I made a mental commitment to study up on the rapture.

I want to begin with an obvious argument, one used by those who are unwilling to read/study for themselves.

The term rapture is non-existent in the English translations that the majority of us use!

Ah, then why are we discussing the rapture?

Because our understanding of rapture has some of its origins in the early Latin texts.
It is found as
rapio or rapturo, depending on who you listen to, but its meaning is the same as the Greek word we are familiar with, harpazo, and it means to be caught or snatched up, almost as if violently.

In Paul's first letter to the Thessalonians, he writes,

1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 NKJV “For they themselves declare concerning us what manner of entry we had to you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, (10) and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.”

  • These people turned to God;

  • They wait anxiously for His Son;

  • And, they know that He, Jesus, is the one who will deliver us from the wrath to come.

Paul's purpose in writing was to strengthen their faith and provide them with assurance of Christ's return for His bride.

If you read Paul's letters to the church in Thessalonica, you will gain insight that supports the need for enthusiasm about the “rapture”.

Let's just say, for giggles, that you refuse to accept that we, the church, will be caught up in time to deliver us from God's wrath that is coming upon the earth – a time that is effectively pointed at the Jews that would not believe that Jesus is the Messiah, and the nations (the Gentiles).

If God's wrath is what you long for, then it is your hope and dream; and you will suffer at least some of what we see when we read Revelation 6 and beyond – God's wrath beginning to be poured out.

To wet your whistle, I present to you Revelation 6:4 – the second event.

Revelation 6:4 NKJV Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword.

This is God using humanity to kill humanity.

Consider what is happening in Iran right now. BTW, Wikipedia shows that “On 17 January, The Sunday Times reported that at least 16,500 to 18,000 people had been killed and 330,000 were injured.

In light of the wrath that is to come, these numbers are meaningless.

Revelation 6:8 NASB: I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.

A fourth of the earth's population is killed by various methods, and this is just the beginning of God's wrath.

The catching or snatching away of the church is intended to remove us before the wrath.

Since Paul is the primary articulator of the church's catching away, let's focus on him for a moment.

While preaching Jesus as Messiah (the Jewish king) in Thessalonica, Paul had been accused of preaching another king besides Caesar (Act_17:7). The very young Thessalonian church continued to experience persecution after Paul’s departure, but he encourages them with the promise of a future hope, which applies even to those who have already died(1Th_4:13-18). (The IVP Bible Background Commentary: New Testament, Copyright © 1993 by Craig S. Keener)

Paul’s entrance and exit from Thessalonica are recorded in Acts chapter 17. It did not go well for him there, and noble men escorted Paul and Silas to safety. From this point,  they traveled on to Berea. The Bereans were the ones who studied the scriptures to validate or disprove Paul's message.

Because of the nature of the letter to the church in Thessalonica and the soundness of the biblical doctrines, I can easily make several assumptions.


  • First, I presumed that Paul had a reasonable amount of time with them.

    Obviously, that was not the case. Paul had no idea how much of an uproar the Jews would have brought against him.

    If Paul had known he would only be speaking there for 3 weeks, he surely would have stuck to the basics of Christian doctrine; at least that is what the religious zealots who are entrenched in every church I have had anything to do with would have said. Perhaps, knowing that he would be under attack on short notice, he then chose to preach things that most of you have never heard in your church, the Revelation.

  • Secondly, I assumed he had established some elders in this church, and that may have happened.

    When would he have done that, besides the fact that this was an established synagogue, and not looking for someone to bring about a different way of thinking?

  • The third thing that dominates my thinking is the depth of his conversations with them about the things of God.

    Most people will struggle for months with the concept of eternal salvation, and yet in Christ, it is well-defined. A simple example of this is found in:

      John 10:28 NASB and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.

Paul reasoned with them for three Sabbaths.

I cannot imagine him taking non-Sabbath days off. Three weeks might not have been enough time for him to set up his tent-making operations, let alone make a couple of dollars to buy groceries. But apparently, you can make a huge impact on receptive ears in three weeks. Nonetheless, in three weeks, he gave them a solid foundation and a bit more.

What I constantly remind myself is that Paul’s first stops were always to the Synagogues. Here, you should find people who are well established in the law and the prophets due to oral tradition.

The truth the Holy Spirit gave to Paul was based on the Law and the Prophets, so he does have common ground.

In recovery, I have found that the greatest testimony of Christ’s work in me has everything to do with what I personally know and have experienced - freedom and hope. This is what Paul found, and the message he spread.

Jewish ways and traditions run deep, but then history proves that, but so does Israel's affinity for idolatry; we will ignore that for the moment, seeing as we all struggle with that one.

However, within three weeks, many of these “church” goers were ready to kill Paul, or at a minimum run him out of town. It may have been a free city and not under the heavy hand of Rome, but insurrections were put down swiftly. Regardless, Paul and Silas are now gone, and therefore Paul writes,

1 Thessalonians 4:13 NASB (13) “But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope.”

I think it is brilliant how the Holy Spirit opens so much truth to the Thessalonian church in just one sentence.

Paul used the word we translated as "uninformed," not because he had left out valuable information in his three-week crash course on eschatology, but because someone had come back later and muddied the waters of truth, probably by bringing external circumstances into the picture.

You know how some people are so good at pointing out the obvious to you, for the express purpose of keeping you founded in sound doctrine. I suspect they mean well, but their delivery has no intent other than to point out your fallacies and how undisciplined you are at exegeting the Word (which may mean you have not illustrated or explained the Word well enough for their liking), all the while trying to make themselves look better.

Another aspect of this verse is the ramifications of being asleep.
No, I am not talking about falling asleep in church; I do it all the time. Besides, the setting is perfect for sleeping.

Asleep should mean physically dead. If it were not for the fact that our souls never die, I would think that some are spiritually dead already. So Paul is referring to those who had only recently died.

Why would Paul have to have a conversation about them grieving over those who have died?

No one is saying that it is not okay to grieve the loss of a loved one. However, if I have hope, another aspect of Paul’s conversation, then I should understand that because they too had a relationship with Jesus Christ, I would see them again. This one verse is an allusion to our being with Jesus, as the rapture is written all over it.

The same guy who shut down our morning conversation because he alone felt that the mention of the rapture deserved the brunt of his displeasure feels strongly that we should focus only on the church's doctrines. Really, what does that mean, because those can be different depending on what denomination you are in?

Doctrines, in general, are the basics that establish our relationship with God.

An example might be found in the Apostle's Creed:

I believe -

  • In God the Father - Maker of heaven and earth;

  • And in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord.

  • Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary.

  • He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried;

  • He descended into Hades, and on the third day, He rose from the dead;

  • I believe in the Holy Ghost;

  • The holy catholic Church; the communion of saints;

  • The forgiveness of sins;

  • The resurrection of the body;

  • In the life everlasting.

There are at least five other versions of the creed, none wholly in agreement with the other. While there are only four words in here that give me grief, the overall impact is YES, this is what I believe. These statements are Biblical and validate our hope.

Moreover, if my argumentative friend were to read them again, he might realize that they include the concept of the rapture. It is clear that Paul believed wholeheartedly in the harpazo, or snatching away, of the church.

My friend had to let me know that “the rapture did not exist until the 1800’s.” Moments like this make me wish my brain worked better. How dare you accuse me of dispensing fallacies when you make an uneducated statement like that? While it may be true that the term “rapture” did not become popular until the 1800s, that does not make it meaningless or nonexistent. The word rapture is derived from the Latin rapiemur and appears in the Latin Vulgate. It effectively means a snatching away.

From Wikipedia:

The Latin Vulgate translates the Greek ἁρπαγησόμεθα as rapiemur,[21] from the verb rapio meaning "to catch up" or "take away".[22]

1 Thessalonians 4:17.

Let us get something straight. Jesus only guaranteed us a few things:

  1. In this world, you will have tribulation.

    What does that mean?

    It means that the potential of things becoming extremely hard and you being killed is a harsh reality. Tribulation does not equal Wrath. Tribulation is a way of life, and NO, God is not terribly interested in whether you drive the newest Mercedes-Benz.

  2. You, as a follower of Christ, will be hated by all men.

    That includes religious folk.

  3. Jesus said, I will not leave you, nor forsake you. I will come back for you.

  4. There is a valid hope, and it includes a life with the Father in a land of peace.

Some of the questions you have to ask yourself, if you are trying to make a decision as to whether the rapture is relevant or not, is: Who spoke about it, and can we trust them?

Jesus spoke about it.

John’s gospel is one of the largest collections of references to the concept.

John 14:3 ASV And if I go and prepare a place for you, I come again, and will receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

John 14:18 KJV I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

  • Is it possible that other terms are being used and I am missing them?

Absolutely! It is called:

(His coming)

2 Peter 3:3-4 KJV Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, (4) And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

(Our gathering together)

2 Thessalonians 2:1 KJV (1) Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

(His coming in the clouds)

Mark 14:62 KJV And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

(The day of the Lord Jesus)

2 Corinthians 1:14 MKJV (14) even as you have recognized us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as you also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Paul never left the subject untouched, whether he called it our hope or our gathering to Him.

1 Thessalonians 4 may answer any questions we have, if we give it a chance.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 MKJV (14) “For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again.” This is one of those things that define us; it is essential, doctrinal, and foundational truth for every believer. “..even so God will also bring with Him all those who have fallen asleep through Jesus.”I can apply this statement to two things. First, since the dead in Christ will rise first, they will be with him and possibly be considered to be brought with Him. The second is at the end of the seven years, the time of God’s wrath upon the earth.”

Zechariah 14:5 KJVAnd ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.”

Here is the passage that tends to trouble me.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJV (15) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. “For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord.”

If Paul has to reestablish where his inspiration comes from, that tends to tell me these people have really had their boat rocked.

Speaking from experience, I came to the Lord at perhaps age 12. I tend to cling to that age as a reference point. In reality, evangelistic preachers would come about every six months. I, like so many others, would go down front to repent and be born again; why? because I never had an assurance of my salvation. Mom did not help much with that, as she would emphasize that some minor stupidity we pulled as kids needed to be repented of, or God just might bypass us, and we would end up in hell. Needless to say, most of my childhood was filled with fear.

Paul rehearsed with them.

that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.”

This tells me that one of two things has affected them. Someone has come after Paul left and preached a message that confuses or contradicts what Paul taught; that, or they focused on “the tribulation”, as a perceived evidence of the seven years after the rapture, has come to their minds.

I don't know when this started, but we have done this to ourselves. 

The seven years are called the time of God’s wrath upon the earth. Jesus indicated that it would be a time of such great tribulation that, or they told them that no one would survive unless God shortened time. It is a time of judgment. If I were Paul and I had only three weeks to bring you up to speed, establishing that you are no longer under condemnation for your sins would be high on my list of priorities. Just because we are forgiven, purchased out from under the debt we owed, does not give us that full access we see; acceptance of Jesus Christ as the one who paid that price does.

I do not understand, for the life of me, why God needs these old bodies, but he seems to want them attached to the souls they belong to.

This next verse is the snatching away for which we long. We, out of habit, call it the rapture.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV (16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (17) Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

For me, the key argument about why I should understand, believe, and preach the coming of Jesus Christ, something I happen to believe is imminent, comes in the next verse. It also happens to be the last verse of chapter 4.

1 Thessalonians 4:18 KJV (18) Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Since Paul had already encouraged and admonished the church, it makes sense to say, "Use these words to comfort one another." If he had placed this sentence elsewhere in the text, then I would have to wonder what kind of documents they have to refer to to gain this encouragement. You do realize that all they had was the Holy Spirit and their memories to hold them together.

I believe, especially now, that we were meant to understand and preach this message. I believe it is even more relevant today because many around us have seen these prophecies happen before their eyes. Israel's becoming a nation is one of them.

If, as some will say, the Church must endure the Tribulation… why does Scripture repeatedly promise our removal from wrath?

The pre-tribulation rapture is not built on one verse. It is a cumulative argument in which aspects of our faith, such as doctrine, timing, language, and biblical patterns, converge.

Start with Christ’s promise:

My Father’s house has many rooms… I am going there to prepare a place for you… I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.”
John 14:2–3

This is not Christ descending to rule; this is Christ receiving His people and taking them to the Father’s house.

Paul describes the same event:

“…we who are still alive… will be caught up together… to meet the Lord in the air.”
1 Thessalonians 4:17

Listen, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed — in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye…”
1 Corinthians 15:51–52

The word changed, in verse 51, also means: caught up or received.
This is comfort language, not judgment language, and Paul frames this as a rescue from divine wrath:

“…Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.”
1 Thessalonians 1:10

For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath…”
1 Thessalonians 5:9

Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him!”
Romans 5:9

The Tribulation is repeatedly described as heaven’s (God's) judicial wrath
(Revelation 6:16–17).

If the Church is exempt from wrath, removal before that period is the instinctive reading.

And what a surprise, even the Old Testament points to the same pattern.

Go, my people, enter your rooms… hide yourselves for a little while until his wrath has passed by.”
Isaiah 26:20

God shelters His people while His wrath sweeps the earth.

Jesus confirmed this removal-before-judgment template.

But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down… It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.”
Luke 17:29–30

You can find the full narrative of Lot and the angels sent to bring the wrath in Genesis 19. They were restrained from bringing the destruction until Lot and his family were safe.

While there was no urgency or destruction seen with Enoch, what is important is the method and swiftness. We should not assume there were no safety reasons for extracting Enoch from the earth, because Genesis 6 tells us about the depravity of humankind. We should not assume that the decline in moral standards began only after Enoch's removal.

Enoch walked faithfully with God; then he was no more, because God took him away.”
Genesis 5:24

The writer of Hebrews tells us,

By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death…” Hebrews 11:5

As with Enoch, there was no urgency due to violence; it was merely time for the old prophet Elijah's time to leave the earth. 2 Kings describes the event like this,

After they had crossed over, Elijah said to Elisha, “Tell me, what can I do for you before I am taken away from you?” “Please, let me inherit a double portion of your spirit,” Elisha replied. “You have requested a difficult thing,” said Elijah. “Nevertheless, if you see me as I am taken from you, it will be yours. But if not, then it will not be so.” As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire with horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up into heaven in a whirlwind. As Elisha watched, he cried out, “My father, my father, the chariots and horsemen of Israel!” And he saw Elijah no more. So taking hold of his own clothes, he tore them in two. Elisha also picked up the cloak that had fallen from Elijah, and he went back and stood on the bank of the Jordan. Then he took the cloak of Elijah that had fallen from him and struck the waters. “Where now is the LORD, the God of Elijah?” he asked. And when he had struck the waters, they parted to the right and to the left, and Elisha crossed over.”
2 Kings 2:9-14 BSB

Jesus also had something to say about Noah's deliverance from the coming wrath.

Just as it was in the days of Noah… the flood came and destroyed them all.”
Luke 17:26–27

It is logical to assume that judgment waits until the righteous are secured, and this pattern echoes throughout Scripture:

Much like we saw with Enoch

And he ordered that the chariot be stopped; and both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and [Philip] baptized him. And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord [suddenly] caught away Philip; and the eunuch saw him no more, and he went on his way rejoicing. But Philip was found at Azotus, and passing on he preached the good news (Gospel) to all the towns until he reached Caesarea.”
Acts 8:38-40 AMP

God repeatedly demonstrated His ability to remove His servants before catastrophic judgment. The Tribulation (as we unwisely call it) is expressly named,

For, note well, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will release from captivity My people Israel and Judah, says the Lord, and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they will possess it. And these are the words the Lord spoke concerning Israel and Judah: Thus says the Lord: We have heard a voice of trembling and panic--of terror, and not peace. Ask now and see whether a man can give birth to a child? Why then do I see every man with his hands on his loins like a woman in labor? Why are all faces turned pale? Alas! for that day will be great, so that none will be like it; it will be the time of Jacob's [unequaled] trouble, but he will be saved out of it.” [Matt. 24:29, 30; Rev. 7:14.]
Jeremiah 30:3-7 AMP

Jacob = Israel. It is not the Church. Revelation reflects this shift. The word “church” saturates chapters 1–3, then disappears from the seals, trumpets, and bowls; and we see the evidence of this when it says,

After these things I looked, and behold, a door was opened in Heaven. And the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me, saying, Come up here, and I will show you what must occur after these things.” Revelation 4:1 MKJV

Those things are the end of the church age.

In the Revelation, the focus soon returns to Israel and the nations. It has been explained to me, by smarter men than I, that these elders, crowned, enthroned, and rewarded, are the church already in heaven. We see this in Revelation 4:4.

“…around the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads.”
Revelation 4:4

Now comes one of the strongest images in the New Testament: the Restrainer.

“…the one who now restrains it will do so until he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed.”
2 Thessalonians 2:7–8

If you study scriptures enough, you will come to realize that the arrival of the Antichrist is that thing that unleashes God's wrath upon the earth.

If restraint is the Spirit’s work through the Church, the sequence is clear: removal of the saints, the revelation of the Antichrist, and the onslaught of God's wrath. the Tribulation.

Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.”
Revelation 3:10 NKJV

The word translated as "kept" or "keep" is the Greek tērēsō. It means to watch, observe, or keep your eyes on. It also means to guard as a prisoner, and to keep (held) back or in store.

The Church is told to expect Christ as the next event.

“…we wait for the blessed hope…” Titus 2:13

You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.” Luke 12:40

Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.” Matthew 24:42

The Judge is standing at the door!” James 5:9



Friday, January 1, 2021

Premise is everything. A rebuttal of a post-tribulation rapture.

 Once again, I am interrupting my train of thought on 1 Timothy; hope you don't mind.

A few days ago, on my Twitter feed, a young lady proclaimed, “the more I read Revelation chapter seven, the more I am convinced of a post-tribulation rapture.”

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it is wrong. However, a writer, of which I have several of his books, clicked like on her comment, and that causes me grief. I will tell you that I refused to get into a fight with her, primarily because at my age I cannot remember passages that I could use as a club against her. I happen, at this point in time, to find this memory issue a blessing, as I still remember key words and themes and will take the time to find a prudent answer.

If I am going to make a brash statement such as, we are destined to go through the “tribulation”, as though the seven years that are coming are called the tribulation, then I am going to have to present a premise (Let's just say, a darn good reason why I believe that way.) Webster's Dictionary of American English (1828), tells me that an aspect of the word premise is “To speak or write before, or as introductory to the main subject; to offer previously, as something to explain or aid in understanding what follows.

In the case of this young lady, her premise was nothing more than informing her audience that she read the seventh chapter of Revelation more than once. Merely announcing that you have read something more than once tells me nothing more than you can read. And so, just this morning, after finishing my other devotionals, I intentionally played Revelation 7, repeatedly, on my phone's Bible application to see if I could pick up on what would tell me where she came to this conclusion; I found none.

Premise is everything, and if I am going to make the postulation that Revelation 7 is powerful evidence that we are going to go through the time of God's wrath, then I need to define why, but I can't do that if I don't understand or believe that this time period is just that, a time of great wrath and judgment.

I told an acquaintance that God's wrath is the basis for the seven-year period; to which he angrily responded, it is NOT. He would not back up his assertion as it was an emotional assumption based on traditional religious teaching. He merely proved to me that he had not read his Bible.

So my premise for understanding anything in the book of the Revelation, beyond chapter three, is that the seven-year-period is the time of God's wrath and judgment and is the major focus, aside from Jesus, of the Revelation.

What is the first thing you see when you begin to read the Revelation?

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ,

If I must have proof of this statement about this time being the time of wrath, then I have dig through the majority of scripture from Job through the Revelation. The understanding that the wrath and judgment of God are coming is seeded throughout the Psalms, the Prophets, and the New Testament.

Job chapter 19 is interesting as it has Job telling those with him, even as my flesh is destroyed, I will see God. There is no assumption that anything else will happen; and I am referring to any potential wrath that he might, by religious standards, deserve.

"As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, And at the last, He will take His stand on the earth. "Even after my skin is destroyed, Yet from my flesh, I shall see God;” (Job 19:25-26 NASB)

And, there is the declaration from Job that,

“wrath brings the punishment of the sword, So that you may know there is judgment.” (Job 19:29 NASB)

King David understood that Israel had become a reproach to their neighbors, and he asked the Lord if He would pour out His wrath upon the nations instead.

We have become a reproach to our neighbors, A scoffing and derision to those around us. How long, O LORD? Will You be angry forever? Will Your jealousy burn like fire? Pour out Your wrath upon the nations which do not know You, And upon the kingdoms which do not call upon Your name. (Psalms 79:4-6 NASB)

End, page one.

And this is precisely what God will do, but you should know that God's wrath is to be poured out on Israel as well.

When God began killing them, they finally sought him. They repented and took God seriously. Then they remembered that God was their rock, that God Most High was their redeemer. But all they gave him was lip service; they lied to him with their tongues. Their hearts were not loyal to him. They did not keep his covenant. Yet he was merciful and forgave their sins and did not destroy them all. Many times he held back his anger and did not unleash his fury! (Psalms 78:34-38 NLT)

The Prophet Isaiah declares,

Come here and listen, O nations of the earth. Let the world and everything in it hear my words. For the LORD is enraged against the nations. His fury - (many of the translations use the word wrath here) is against all their armies. He will completely destroy them, dooming them to slaughter. Their dead will be left unburied, and the stench of rotting bodies will fill the land. The mountains will flow with their blood. The heavens above will melt away and disappear like a rolled-up scroll. The stars will fall from the sky like withered leaves from a grapevine or shriveled figs from a fig tree. And when my sword has finished its work in the heavens, it will fall upon Edom, the nation I have marked for destruction. (Isaiah 34:1-5 NLT)

God also uses the term judgment(s) against the nations and Israel. Here is an example of what Ezekiel tells us.

"Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, 'Because you have more turmoil than the nations which surround you and have not walked in My statutes, nor observed My ordinances, nor observed the ordinances of the nations which surround you,' therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, 'Behold, I, even I, am against you, and I will execute judgments among you in the sight of the nations. (Ezekiel 5:7-8 NASB)

Nahum says,

A jealous and avenging God is the LORD; The LORD is avenging and wrathful. The LORD takes vengeance on His adversaries, And He reserves wrath for His enemies. (Nahum 1:2 NASB)

If Israel is the target of His wrath, then it safe to assume that many of them have become His enemies.

Mountains quake because of Him And the hills dissolve; Indeed the earth is upheaved by His presence, The world, and all the inhabitants in it. Who can stand before His indignation? Who can endure the burning of His anger? His wrath is poured out like fire And the rocks are broken up by Him. (Nahum 1:5-6 NASB)

If you wanted to know some of the ways in which Israel made God angry, try reading Ezekiel 16. There are so many details here that I will limit the passages. The NASB entitles this chapter the Lord's faithless bride.

Ezekiel 16:2 NASB "Son of man, make known to Jerusalem her abominations.

The NLT uses the terminology “her detestable sins.” So then what are some of these sins?

Ezekiel 16:16-17 NLT You used the lovely things I gave you to make shrines for idols, where you played the prostitute. Unbelievable! How could such a thing ever happen? (17) You took the very jewels and gold and silver ornaments I had given you and made statues of men and worshiped them. This is adultery against me!

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Israel was barely out of Egypt when they coerced Aaron to make them the god Moloch. A massive image in the shape of a bull with outstretched arms and a hollow body in which they set a fire; the participants then roasted their children in the heated arms of this image.

What is the modern equivalent of such child murder?

We call it abortion and classify it as women's health.

"Moreover, you took your sons and daughters whom you had borne to Me and sacrificed them to idols to be devoured. Were your harlotries so small a matter? "You slaughtered My children and offered them up to idols by causing them to pass through the fire. (Ezekiel 16:20-21 NASB)

Perhaps by this time you understand why God is bringing His wrath and judgment, and to whom this wrath is supposed to come – the nations (We who are not Jews fall under the category of Gentiles or nations, that is, until we gave our life to Christ. We never take the place of the Jews, however, the adoption process, that God instituted, brings us into the family by placing us into Christ.) and Israel.

If you believe that those of us who are in Jesus Christ are supposed to endure the wrath and judgment coming upon those who have ignored Jesus, you have a serious problem. The Apostle Paul said, this message, in opposition to Christ coming back to rescue His church, is a doctrine of Demons, and you need to repent.

What did Paul preach?

Romans 1:18 NASB For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

What is the wrath directed at? 1. All ungodliness, and 2. The unrighteousness of people who suppress the truth in the unrighteousness. When we accepted Christ's life in us, we obtained His righteousness, nothing less, and in God's eyes, we are righteous and accepted.

Just off the top of your head, who does it sound like God is talking to in Romans 1:18?

You would be right if you said the nation of Israel.

You want to know one of the ways they suppress the truth?

The rabbis in Israel prohibit the synagogue members from reading Isaiah 53 and the book of Daniel.

Why do you suppose that is?

Because both of these prophets very precisely spell out the Messiah and who He is, and they can't have that.

This next paragraph applies to all who exhibit stubbornness and an unrepentant heart.

Romans 2:1-5 NASB Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. (2) And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. (3) But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? (4) Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? (5) But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,

How about this one.

Romans 5:6-9 NASB For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. (7) For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. (8) But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (9) Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.

Christ died on that cross and rose again. It is because of those actions and our faith in those actions that we are saved from that WRATH that is to come. This statement is a short version of 1Corinthians 15:1-4.

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1 Thessalonians 1:9-10 NASB (9) For they themselves report about us what kind of a reception we had with you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve a living and true God, (10) and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come.

We are not only rescued from the wrath to come, but this wrath is not our destiny. Our destiny is a seven-year banquet, in heaven, with Jesus. Let me make a point here. Over the years, some of the more heavyset speakers – who obviously enjoy food, have told us, we will sit down to the marriage supper of the Lamb. Because of one of those men – a man who frequently dove into teaching the doctrines of demons, I did a word search for “supper of the Lamb.” It only shows up one time in our Bibles and that is in Revelation 19:9. In close proximity to that phrase, there is nothing to explain or define what that looks like, that is until you get to Revelation 19:17,18. Here a bloody scene has been described and obviously, God's enemies have been slain.

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. (Revelation 19:17-18 KJV)

Perhaps you get the idea. For me, just knowing that I will be thankfully clinging to Jesus, finally holding on to the one who was willing to give His life for me.

Pay attention, God has NOT destined us, who believe, for wrath, and that is the primary purpose of the seven-years. Surprisingly, the secondary motive is to draw all humanity to Him. Considering the horrors that are coming it is hard to conceive, but it is true as it is His nature and character.

For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, (1 Thessalonians 5:9 NASB)

The next verses speak of God keeping us from sufferings or, as some put it, tribulations. Here are the verses, and they refer to Lot as an example of how God keeps us.

Yes, Lot was a righteous man who was tormented in his soul by the wickedness he saw and heard day after day. So you see, the Lord knows how to rescue godly people from their trials, even while keeping the wicked under punishment until the day of final judgment. (2 Peter 2:8-9 NLT)

Since some of you may not be familiar with Lot I will give you a quick overview. Lot is Abraham's nephew. They lived side by side, as Abraham watched over him for a time. As their herds grew and workers fought, it was time for Lot to move on. Given the pick of the land, Lot picked the area of Sodom and Gomorrah. You can speculate on the whys of such a move, but perhaps God had a story to tell and it required Lot to go there. Fast forward, this place is a deviant, sexual orgy hot spot, and on the day the angels came to town with one purpose – to destroy, they find Lot sitting in the gates of the city. This gate thing was important as this is where the law was handed down and affairs of life were adjudicated; from this, we know that Lot was a righteous decision-maker. The dickering was done, the place was to be destroyed, and we find Lot stalling. Having read the story it is hard to understand why he stalled, so the angels grabbed him and his family, saying, we cannot bring the pain until we get you to safety.

Rescue has become a hot topic, even more so lately, as the restrictions passed down by an omniscient few (Bill Gates and friends,) have put the world under oppressive restrictions for nine months, and it's only getting worse. People who lean toward the prophetic (they read their Bibles and see that these events we find in scripture are being played out before us,) are crying out, Lord, come and rescue us, and soon. Of course, the opposition, many of whom claim there is no God, consistently screams you just want to escape. Well, this is good news for us believers, as escape is a theological concept and we see it in the word rescue.

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Rescue is the Greek word rhuomai and it means, according to Thayer's concordance “to draw to one’s self, to rescue, and to deliver.” Does the idea of drawing an entire global community of Christ-followers sound very similar to the rapture of the Church? That is because it is!

The word temptations or tribulations creates a problem only because we call God's wrath the time of tribulation. Jesus said, in this world, because you belong to me, you will have tribulations. By-the-way, in the Revelation, there is a time period, the second half of the seven-years, of which Scripture says, that the tribulations will be so great that unless the Lord intervenes no one would survive. So a distinction has to be made between the common and sometimes violent, daily tribulations of life, and the apparent non-stop horror of the seven-years.

The English word translated here as tribulations or temptations is the Greek word peirasmos. It means to put to proof. The Word Study Dictionary tells us this, “When God is the agent, peirasmós is for the purpose of proving someone, never for the purpose of causing him to fall.

Since we operate under the assumption that God's wrath is entirely for the purpose of killing off people who are in conflict with Him, then we cannot assign that time period to those who are deemed God's people, in any way shape, or form as we should be excluded. I am hoping you see the logic here.

At this moment, you may not feel like one of God's people even though you did all the appropriate religious steps and accepted Jesus. That's just like Satan to tell you that, but you do belong to Him, and God does see you through the shed blood of Jesus. It is that blood, which you accepted in faith, that makes you righteous.

“in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.” (1 Corinthians 15:52 NASB)

At this point in time (in heaven,) feelings won't matter anymore as you will be like Him.

Since the time of wrath is for the dispensing of wrath, then what do we former sinners get?

A home in heaven with the Father. Simply put, all the wrath of God was put on Christ for one purpose. So that we would not have to suffer wrath for sin. We were forgiven on that cross. Those who reject Him get to stay and endure.

Do we humans punish sins here on earth?

Certainly, we do, if we can prosecute you. God instituted laws for the lawless, and those who stumble into sin. Sin is so many things, including gluttony, but who is counting. Jesus took all the sin upon Himself, voluntarily, so that scripture could say, God so loved the world, that He gave His only son. He redeemed us, paid the price for us, and bought us back so that we could walk free in His love.

How do you repay Him?

You don't, you open your arms and allow Him to come in. Remember, at that moment, in the twinkling of an eye, you were changed; you passed from life to death. Oh sure, your body will die if Christ does not come back first, but your spirit is alive to God now, and always will be.

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