Showing posts with label Revelation 19. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Revelation 19. Show all posts

Tuesday, December 6, 2022

Does Jesus fight in two battles; if so, what are they?

 

 I got a message from a friend that I needed to address.

Originally posted on 08/31/2019.

I received a message which read sort of like this – I say sort of because I had to make it legible.

My acquaintance said, "I told some people that Jesus fights two battles, one by himself and then Armageddon." The people he spoke to responded with, "are you sure." To which he said, "yes, turn your bible to Isaiah 63:3,4, and then look at Revelation 19:13."

Let's start by looking at Jesus allegedly fighting two battles.

While the terminology, fighting, shows up multiple times throughout the Bible. In reality, Jesus only fights ONE battle, and we see that "war" in Revelation 19.

  11) “And I saw Heaven opened. And behold, a white horse! And He sitting on him was called Faithful and True. And in righteousness He judges and makes war.  (12)  And His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head many crowns. And He had a name written, one that no one knew except Himself.  (13)  And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.  (14)  And the armies in Heaven followed Him on white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.  (15)  And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, so that with it He should strike the nations. And He will shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the wine-press of the wine of the anger and of the wrath of Almighty God.  (16)  And He has on His garment, and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.”
(Revelation 19:11-16 MKJV)

If you integrate Armageddon into the conversation, you only confuse the issue for most; the reason for


that is that every major battle in the scriptures was fought in the Plain of Jezreel, in the Meggido Valley (it is the location that causes us to call this Armageddon.) This will include the "war" at the end of the seven years and the final battle at the end of the thousand-year reign. A fascinating yet confusing fact is that this information about the final battle is found in Revelation 20:7-9. In case you forgot, the book of Revelation is the revealing of Jesus Christ, so when it says God, you need to ask, am I looking at God or Jesus?

7) “And when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be loosed out of his prison.  (8)  And he will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle. The number of them is as the sand of the sea.  (9)  And they went up over the breadth of the earth and circled around the camp of the saints, and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of Heaven and devoured them.”
(Revelation 20:7-9 MKJV)

In this battle, there is only one person, Jesus, against the multitude. Just for the fun of it, we will say that Jesus never has to lift a hand because “fire comes down from God out of Heaven and devours them.” I would not consider this a fight.

Now, if you want to get technical about the components that make a fight, Revelation 19:11-15 fits the bill.

And I saw Heaven opened. And behold, a white horse! And He sitting on him was called Faithful and True. And in righteousness He judges and makes war.  (12)  And His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head many crowns. And He had a name written, one that no one knew except Himself.  (13)  And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.  (14)  And the armies in Heaven followed Him on white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.  (15)  And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, so that with it He should strike the nations. And He will shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the wine-press of the wine of the anger and of the wrath of Almighty God.”
(Revelation 19:11-15 MKJV)

All of the actors have gathered for battle.

  • We have the king of kings and Lord of Lords, Jesus, sitting upon the white horse, and He has a sword coming out of His mouth.

  • Jesus is followed by the saints of heaven, and they, too, are riding on white horses.

  • And then there are the nations.

    The Jews would never, especially at this point, rise up against the Messiah they have been waiting for, and the martyred saints should have already been resurrected to heaven and may well be riding with Jesus into this “battle.” The nations are those who have chosen to take up arms against Jesus, and contrary to twisted opinion, not all of the nations will be standing there ready to fight. Fascinating that a people group that refused to acknowledge God now recognizes Jesus.

But you still have a problem, which most solve by making assumptions, as you don't see Jesus lift a finger in battle. The response to that problem can be seen in Isaiah's writings.

But with righteousness He shall judge the poor, and shall decide with uprightness for the meek of the earth. And He shall strike the earth with the rod of His mouth, and with the breath of His lips He shall slay the wicked.”
(
Isaiah 11:4 MKJV)

So all these people who have come to fight are slain with the breath of His lips. For the unbelievers, I offer a second witness from the Apostle Paul.

And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the breath of His mouth and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming,”
(
2 Thessalonians 2:8 MKJV)

And to make your head swim a little, allow me to throw in the idea that Sodom and Gomorrah may well have been an example of towns and people being destroyed by the breath of God. You can read Genesis 19 at your leisure.

Revelation 19:13 tells us that His garment has been dipped in blood. I am not sure how my acquaintance integrated this point about "The blood on his cloak," but he presented this argument to some people at church, and they responded with, “some say it's the blood of the saints, while others say it is His own blood.” My friend replied by telling them, "not so, it is the blood of His enemies." At this point, those people who questioned him agreed and walked away. Apparently, my acquaintance took this last statement to a couple of Pastors at a Calvary Chapel, and they agreed with my friend.

So let's look at what the Prophet Isaiah tells us about this illustration.

Isaiah 63:1-4 NASB 1) “Who is this who comes from Edom, With garments of glowing colors from Bozrah, This One who is majestic in His apparel, Marching in the greatness of His strength? "It is I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save." (2) Why is Your apparel red, And Your garments like the one who treads in the wine press? (3) "I have trodden the wine trough alone, And from the peoples, there was no man with Me. I also trod them in My anger And trampled them in My wrath, And their lifeblood is sprinkled on My garments, And I stained all My raiment. (4) "For the day of vengeance was in My heart, And My year of redemption has come.”

Isaiah 63:1 explains who the subject is by giving us clues, similar to Revelation 19: 11-15. Any decent Jew would recognize that this is a comparable prophetic word from the Old Testament that gives acceptance to Revelation 19. Some of the clues are:

  • This One who is majestic in His apparel (Psalm 93:1);

  • Marching in the greatness of His strength (Psalm 24:8);

  • It is I who speakin righteousness (Proverbs 8:8).

All of these speak about Jesus Christ. An obvious aspect of this passage is that at least the lower half of the garment of the Messiah is soaked in blood.  

The narrator asks, 

Why are your garments like the one who treads in the wine-press?” 

   Consider that there was a time when people stomped the liquid out of grapes with their feet. If they were smart, they would lift up or remove any outer garment so it would not get covered in juice. Perhaps, in making juice, some would splash onto your clothing, but merely allowing your garments to become wholly inundated with this blood-red juice is preposterous.

What does this scene, where the victor, coming from a battle, soaked in the adversaries blood, say about the person walking out of the battle?

  • It says He went into the battle prepared.

  • We can't presume He went alone, but if there had been others, we would be left to assume that no one else made it out alive. Consider who is going into the battle. Everybody coming with Jesus to the conflict is NOW an immortal being that cannot be harmed. Recall that we have demonstrated that Jesus kills all who choose to fight with the breath of His mouth; therefore, no one has to assist Him in battle.

  • And lastly, He is obviously trained, qualified, and with a positive attitude. He did not care about what His clothing would look like. Perhaps, knowing that He would win, His blood-soaked clothing then becomes a symbol of victory, bravery, and conquest.

Based on what the passage says, can we figure out who this is? 

Absolutely. So, what clues are we given that identify who went into the bloody battle?

Isaiah 9:2-5 NASB 2) “The people who walk in darkness Will see a great light; Those who live in a dark land, The light will shine on them. (3) You shall multiply the nation, You shall increase their gladness; They will be glad in Your presence As with the gladness of harvest, As men rejoice when they divide the spoil. (4) For You shall break the yoke of their burden and the staff on their shoulders, The rod of their oppressor, as at the battle of Midian. (5) For every boot of the booted warrior in the battle tumult, And cloak rolled in blood, will be for burning, fuel for the fire.”

Who is with Jesus in Isaiah 63:3-4? 

Perhaps the question is, does anyone have to be with Him? 

The answer to that is NO. But for the doubter, I refer you to Exodus 12:12 NASB, where it says, 

For I will go through the land of Egypt on that night and will strike down all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments–I am the LORD.”

The verse above makes it quite clear, that there was NO death angel, it was Jesus, and He slaughtered all who were not covered by the blood. So the answer to the question, who was with Him, is NO ONE else. You cannot apply God's judgments against Egypt, where those who were spared were covered by the blood, as that theme does not apply to the nations that we see in Revelation 19 at the end of the seven years.

If we are going to study Armageddon, we must step back a bit to Revelation 16, where we see the end of the final judgments being poured out of the bowls. The preparations for the Battle of Armageddon are made and brought into the picture because of a vial, which is part of the sixth bowl.

Revelation 16:12-16 NASB (12) “The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river, the Euphrates; and its water was dried up so that the way would be prepared for the kings from the east. (13) And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; (14) for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty. (15) (“Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.”) (16) And they gathered them together to the place which in Hebrew is called Har-Magedon.”

I already gave you a regional map of Israel, and there is NOTHING called Har-Magedon on the map. The Ultimate Cross-Reference Treasury helps to define Har-Magedon.

Armageddon. i.e. hill of slaughter, *S# G717. i.e. Mount of Decision or Sentence (Lange). Valley, symbol of defeat; hill, of victory. What the heathen once did against Josiah and his people at Megiddo would now find its counterpart in what they did against Jesus and his followers; but that as once, in the Valley of Megiddo, the theocracy was borne to the grave with Josiah, so, in Armageddon, the Hill of Megiddo, the Lord would avenge the crime of the heathen (Gebhardt, p. 274, cited in Dusterdiek, Note LXXX, p. 425). Compare Psa_83:17-18, and indeed the imagery of that whole Psalm and its connection to the history of Josiah, but its prophetic reference to the future of the nation of Israel in their land and the victory over surrounding enemies. Armageddon is related to the "hill of Megiddo," and that Megiddo is situated in the plain of Jezreel.”

In Revelation 16:17-21 The seventh angel poured out his bowl upon the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple from the throne, saying, “It is done.” While there are still horrendous things happening, the central focus is Babylon, or, should I say, the Babylon system. (Keep in mind that it has everything to do with power and the love of money, the root of all evil.)

Chapters 17 and 18 of Revelation focus on the downfall of the Babylon system. There are some very telling facts about this greed and lust.

Revelation 18:3 NASB “For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality.”

The system collapses in one hour.

Revelation 18:9-10 NASB 9) “And the kings of the earth, who committed acts of immorality and lived sensuously with her, will weep and lament over her when they see the smoke of her burning, … For in one hour your judgment has come.”

If you have been watching the news (December 2022), this should sound familiar as the economic system completely collapses. This is notable as oceanic shipping comes to a complete halt. (Revelation 18:11-17 NASB)

There is an aspect of this next verse that I find deeply troubling, as it implicates the wealthy of the earth in the death of the innocents.

Revelation 18:24 NASB “And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth.”

All who have been slain on the earth.” This should be an eye-opening statement for everybody.

So, as we come into Revelation 19, there are no more judgments to be poured out, merely the termination of the judgments. Watch what happens.

Revelation 19:1-2 NASB “After these things I heard something like a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God; (2) BECAUSE HIS JUDGMENTS ARE TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS; for He has judged the great harlot who was corrupting the earth with her immorality, and HE HAS AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS BOND-SERVANTS ON HER.”

In Heaven, they are rejoicing. The Babylon system is gone. Jesus is about to come roaring on the scene in dramatic fashion, with all the saints riding with Him. The antichrist, the false prophet, and Satan will be thrown into the pit. The loud voices declare that His judgments have come, And, He has avenged the blood of His bond servants.

How can it be said, “it is done,” especially since there is still a battle to be waged?

By Heaven’s standards, this mess is done, for God always looks toward the future (Abraham is a good example of that.)

Revelation 19:6-9 NASB “Then I heard something like the voice of a great multitude and like the sound of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, saying, “Hallelujah! For the Lord our God, the Almighty, reigns. (7) “Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.” (8) It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. (9) Then he *said to me, “Write, ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.'” And he *said to me, “These are true words of God.”

Clothed with a robe dipped in blood, everything about Him is brightness and glory, and His name is the Word of God. Pure majesty.  

I have had discussions like this before, how He only kills the fighters that day. Invariably, the religious come against me with their tradition and false teachings they have learned and try to persuade me of various things, like no one from the nations enters the millennial kingdom.

But here is what the Scripture says,

(Revelation 19:19-21 NASB) 19) “And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. (20) And the beast was seized, and with him, the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone. (21) And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse and all the birds were filled with their flesh.”

So what do we see in Revelation 19:19-21?

  • The beast, which is the Antichrist, and most likely a Muslim leader.

  • The false prophet. I feel strongly that this man will be the high priest of the new Jewish temple. He will convert to Islam and perform signs. It is the signs that will be comparable to what the two witnesses perform that will cause deception.

  • The kings of the earth. This can include the leaders we see at the G10, World Economic Forum, and the European Union.

  • They are assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.

  • The beast was seized, along with the false prophet, and these two, very specifically, were seized and thrown alive into the lake of fire. The rest – those gathered for war, were killed with the sword that comes out of Jesus’ mouth.

Jesus put himself on the cross so that you can have the life of the Father within you; and, in time, spend eternity with Him. 

Saturday, August 31, 2019

I got a message from a friend that I felt needed to be addressed.

I received a message that read like this - ( I wanted to say "sort of" because I had to make it legible.)

I told some people that Jesus fights two battles, one by himself, and then Armageddon.” 

 Picture yourself standing there with a sandwich in one hand and a soda in the other, and someone comes up to you and accosts you with an assertion like this, expecting an answer. It's difficult, at best, to come up with an answer, especially when they are creating their questions and assertions from multiple locations in the Bible, and they often take the scriptures out of context.

These people responded with, “Are you sure.” To which he said, “Yes, turn your bible to Isaiah 63:3,4, and then look at Revelation 19:13.”

So let's look at Isaiah 63:3,4.
Why is Your apparel red, And Your garments like the one who treads in the winepress? "I have trodden the wine trough alone, And from the peoples, there was no man with Me. I also trod them in My anger And trampled them in My wrath; And, their lifeblood is sprinkled on My garments, And I stained all My raiment. (Isaiah 63:2-3 NASB)

I am not clear if this next response came from his church or if this is an argument he had in his head. Knowing that we have had conversations like this, I would say it was in his head. He added that some say it's the blood of the saints, while others say it is His blood. To this, my friend responds, “Not so; it is the blood of His enemies.” To this statement, those people who asked him agreed and left. They probably staggered out bewildered. 
My acquaintance, who took this last statement to a couple of Pastors at a Calvary Chapel, agreed.



An obvious aspect of this passage is that at least the lower half of the garment of the Messiah is soaked in blood
The scriptural narrator asks, “Why are your garments like the one who treads in the winepress?” 

Consider that there was a time when people actually stomped the juice out of grapes. If they were smart, they would lift up any outer garment so that it would not get covered in juice. Perhaps, in the process of making juice, some would splash up onto your clothing, but to merely allow your clothing to become completely inundated with this blood-red juice is preposterous.

What does this victor, coming from a battle soaked in the enemy's blood, say about the description we see in Isaiah 63:2-3?
It says He went into battle, prepared for battle, and that He really did not care about the outcome of His clothing. Perhaps, knowing that He would win, His clothing then becomes a symbol of victory and conquest.

Based on what the passage says, we can figure out who this is.
So, what clues are we given to identify who went into the bloody battle?

Who is this who comes from Edom, With garments of glowing colors from Bozrah, This One who is majestic in His apparel, Marching in the greatness of His strength? "It is I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save." (Isaiah 63:1 NASB)
  • With garments of glowing colors,
  • One who is majestic in His apparel,
      Psalms 93:1 NASB He is clothed with majesty;
  • Marching in the greatness of His strength.
      Psalms 93:1 The LORD has clothed and girded Himself with strength
  • It is I who speaks in righteousness,
      Isaiah 45:23 NASB The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness..
  • Mighty to save.
      Joshua 4:24 KJV  That all the people of the earth might know the hand of the LORD, that it is mighty: that ye might fear the LORD your God forever.
All of these descriptives speak of Jesus.

Who is with Him in Isaiah 63:3-4? 

Perhaps the question is,
does anyone have to be with Him? The answer to that is NO.
But for the doubter, I refer you to Exodus 12:12 NASB, where it says, For I will go through the land of Egypt on that night and will strike down all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments--I am the LORD.”
The verse above makes it quite clear that there was NO death angel; it was Jesus, and He slaughtered all who were not covered by the blood.
So the answer to the question, who was with Him, is NO ONE else.

Revelation 19:13 is the other reference given by my acquaintance, but I will add verse 14 for clarity.

He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. (Revelation 19:13-14 NASB)

Though we can't be sure at this point, it sounds like the same blood-covered person we saw in Isaiah 63:3-4.

In Revelation 16, we see the end of the final judgments being poured out of the bowls. The preparations for the Battle of Armageddon are made because of a vial in the sixth bowl.

Revelation 16:12-16 NASB (12) The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river, the Euphrates; and its water was dried up so that the way would be prepared for the kings from the east. (13) And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; (14) for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty. (15) ("Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.") (16) And they gathered them together to the place which in Hebrew is called Har-Magedon.

In Revelation 16:17-21 The seventh angel poured out his bowl upon the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple from the throne, saying, "It is done." While horrendous things are still happening, the central focus is Babylon, or, should I say, the Babylon system. (Keep in mind that the love of money is the root of all evil.)

Chapters 17 and 18 of Revelation focus on the downfall of the Babylon system. 
There are some very telling facts about this greed and lust.

Revelation 18:3 NASB "For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality."

The system collapses in one hour.
Revelation 18:9-10 NASB (9) "And the kings of the earth, who committed acts of immorality and lived sensuously with her, will weep and lament over her when they see the smoke of her burning, ... For in one hour your judgment has come.'

If you have been watching the news, this should sound familiar.

The economic system completely collapses.
Revelation 18:11-17 NASB

There is an aspect of this that I find deeply troubling, as it implicates the wealthy of the earth in the death of the innocents.
Revelation 18:24 NASB "And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth."

All who have been slain on the earth.” This should be an eye-opening statement for everybody.
So, as we come into Revelation 19, there are no more judgments to be poured out, merely the termination of the judgments. 

Watch what happens.
Revelation 19:1-2 NASB After these things I heard something like a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, "Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God; (2) BECAUSE HIS JUDGMENTS ARE TRUE AND RIGHTEOUS; for He has judged the great harlot who was corrupting the earth with her immorality and HE HAS AVENGED THE BLOOD OF HIS BOND-SERVANTS ON HER."

In Heaven, they are rejoicing. The Babylon system is gone; His judgments have come; And, He has avenged the blood of His bond-servants.

How can it be said, "it is done," especially since there is one more battle to be waged?
By Heaven's standards, this mess is done, for God always looks toward the future (Abraham is a good example of that.)
Revelation 19:6-9 NASB "Then I heard something like the voice of a great multitude and like the sound of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, saying, "Hallelujah! For the Lord our God, the Almighty, reigns. (7) "Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready." (8) It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. (9) Then he *said to me, "Write, 'Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.'" And he *said to me, "These are true words of God."

I have heard and sung songs about the marriage of the Lamb since I was a child. Some have conveyed that at the rapture of the church, we get to sit down to a seven-year meal. Sadly, that is not the case, and the meal does not sound so appetizing either. 
Let me demonstrate.
Revelation 19:11-13 NASB (11) "And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness, He judges and wages war. (12) His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems, and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. (13) He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God."

Look at that. He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood. Everything about Him is brightness and glory, and His name is the Word of God. Pure majesty.

But now watch this. Here, He is not alone. 
Revelation 19:14 NASB "And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean were following Him on white horses."

I cannot make absolute statements that compare what we see in Isaiah 63 and Revelation 19 and say they are the same thing. (But I will work on it.)

Watch the descriptions as they unfold.
Revelation 19:15 NASB From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the winepress of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.

From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so He may strike down the nations with it. The saints, clothed in white, otherwise known as the bride, are a part of the army that comes with Him, but we never see them in battle. There might be two acceptable explanations for that.
  1. Since we are in Christ, then we, too, partake in this battle.
      Keep in mind that we are immortal at this point and cannot be hurt. Since Jesus is the head of the Church, all victory goes to Him. I am okay with that - like I have any room to argue.
  2. The most reasonable alternative to a group battle is that sword that proceeds from His mouth.
      That sword has the potential to kill instantly. Since we understand that He was the “death angel” that killed all the firstborn of Egypt that night and needed no one to help, then he doesn't need us now. That sword is the Word of God and implies that the Word alone kills those who stand against Him, but then there is all that blood. Perhaps the blood is symbolic, although we are told that it runs as deep as the horses' bridle, and that is fairly deep.
So, if you have been waiting patiently for the marriage supper of the lamb, then enjoy this.
Revelation 19:17-18 NASB (17) Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in mid heaven, "Come, assemble for the great supper of God, (18) so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them and the flesh of all men, both free men and slaves, and small and great."
Meat-eating birds are called to eat the flesh of mighty men, horses of war, those who sit on them, and everyone else – both great and small, who chose to fight against God that day. I have had this discussion before: He only kills the fighters that day. As always, the religious come against me with tradition and false teachings they have learned.

But here is what the Scripture says,
Revelation 19:19-21 NASB (19) And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. (20) And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone. (21) And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

So what do we see in Revelation 19:19-21?
  • The beast is the Antichrist, a Muslim leader.
  • The kings of the earth. This can be Muslim kings but may include the Presidents of Venezuela or the leaders of China and North Korea.
  • They are assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
  • The beast was seized, along with the false prophet, and these two, very specifically, were seized and thrown alive into the lake of fire. The rest - those gathered for war, were killed with the sword that came out of Jesus' mouth.

Friday, August 3, 2018

Gather from every side to my sacrifice. Ezekiel 39:17-20

One of the last things I ever wanted to do was to overwhelm my readers. I truly wanted you to be inspired enough to dig into God's word and find these things for yourselves. Besides that, having sat under far too may manipulative sermons, where they tell you, you have to be a missionary and save the world. I have learned that being a missionary is not even close to my heart's desire, but teaching is. Another thing you should know about me is that I was not a good student when I was younger. Over time and by focusing on one class at a time, I was able to obtain honor status, but that took years. So, I can empathize with those who struggle to learn and absorb information. I edit my writings excessively, and since I am in honesty writing to myself, they excite me. In truth, I have often read the passage already, made pages of notes so that I can understand it, and then begun the process of relaying the things I see, to you. I hope you have the endurance and capability to do the same with my writings. I want us all to get better at understanding the nature and character of this amazing God we serve. He is our Father you know.
With that said, here is a short and yet continuing dive into Ezekiel 39.
Ezekiel 39:17 NASB "As for you, son of man, thus says the Lord GOD, 'Speak to every kind of bird and to every beast of the field, "Assemble and come, gather from every side to My sacrifice which I am going to sacrifice for you, as a great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel, that you may eat flesh and drink blood.
Ezekiel 39:18-20 continues with the same descriptives, and I will leave you to read them on your own.
The phrase, son of man, is found throughout the Bible. Here in verse 17, the directive is being spoken to Ezekiel. Uppercase or lowercase seems to be irrelevant as the context and person being spoken to is key in understanding the verse in question. I point this out as Jesus Christ referred to himself as the Son of man, and the Father often referred to Jesus as the Son of man. (I only bring this up as some see this passage as the same event we see in Revelation 19. We will dive into that momentarily.)
The command to Ezekiel is to: “speak to every kind of bird and every beast of the field.” They are told to Assemble; come, and gather from every side, to what?
  • My sacrifice which I am going to sacrifice for you, as a great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel,
  • that you may eat flesh and drink blood.
This passage sounds all too familiar.
Revelation 19:17-18 NASB 17) Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in midheaven, "Come, assemble for the great supper of God, 18) so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them and the flesh of all men, both free men, and slaves, and small and great."
While there are similar properties, and, it sounds like this is marriage supper of the Lamb, is it the same event?
I do not believe so and here is why.
  • Although both scenarios entail war, one is fought with Jesus as the Messiah, along with the saints; while the other employs fire of some form.
  • One scenario transitions quickly into the millennial reign, while the other has specific timings involved.
  • Revelation 19:20 depicts the judgment of the beast and the false prophet, while Ezekiel speaks nothing of these two.
  • Revelation 19:21 describes the slaughter as exclusively with the sword as it comes from the mouth of Jesus. Ezekiel, on the other, while not speaking of hand to hand combat, focuses on fire alone.
  • Revelation 19 conveys the image of combatants being the only ones who die, while Ezekiel subtly points out that Israelis are killed as well.
  • In Revelation 19:15 the sentence includes Jesus saying, that He will rule them with a rod of iron. This idea of ruling is openly expressing the time when He returns and remains on the earth during the millennial reign. We do not see that in Ezekiel 39 as a part of the annihilation of Gog and his armies.
      Revelation 19:11 NASB And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness, He judges and wages war. Revelation 19:20-21 NASB 20) And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with brimstone. 21) And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.
      Ezekiel 39:3-6 NASB "I will strike your bow from your left hand and dash down your arrows from your right hand. 4) "You will fall on the mountains of Israel, you and all your troops and the peoples who are with you; I will give you as food to every kind of predatory bird and beast of the field. 5) "You will fall on the open field; for it is I who have spoken," declares the Lord GOD. 6) "And I will send fire upon Magog and those who inhabit the coastlands in safety; and they will know that I am the LORD.
I am going to touch on Ezekiel 39:21-22 because there are always critics. The critic would say, I am not thorough or just did not read far enough, for Ezekiel does speak to the millennial reign; and they are right it does, but Revelation 19 demonstrates one continuous flow into the 1000 year reign, while Ezekiel 38 and 39 have specific day lengths involved, such as the seven months before they search; and, then continuously burying bodies for seven months.
Whether this firestorm we see in Ezekiel happens before, during, or after the rapture is irrelevant, as we are still looking at 14 months. That is 14 months of relative calm in Israel, and the catching away of the church, to many, is the boundary between time frames.
Everything happening after the removal of the church is the time of God's wrath.
So, if I could use the two seven month periods within Ezekiel 38,39, then we are 14 months, or 420 days, according to the Jewish calendar, into the seven years of wrath. While the Antichrist may have come on the scene almost instantly, waving his contract of peace, and calling for many to sign it, the false prophet will not show his true colors until 1260 days into this time of wrath.
Add to this mix, the fact that God, immediately after the removal of the church, sends two prophets from heaven who stand in the streets of Jerusalem, doing what? Telling the Jewish community that the Messiah came already, and will come back again soon; they are also preaching that repentance is necessary by turning of the heart toward God; we are also aware that they perform mighty miracles, such as: stopping the rain, calling fire down from heaven (considering what may have already happened, this will be a heart-stopping event,) and, they will kill, with fire from their mouths, anyone who tries to harm them. (Try to picture that, as some sniper, from well over a mile away, attempts to kill them. Snipers tend to get you when you are not expecting it, and yet these guys know everything and stop it with fire.)
These two prophets stand in the streets 1260 days. This time frame overlaps the period of burials, and may well be an integrated part of those burials. At 1260 God decides it is time for the two prophets to come back to heaven and allows them to be killed. What a coincidence that they will be killed just as the false prophet steps into public view.
What have we accomplished here? We have pointed out that Ezekiel 39 and Revelation 19 while having almost precise wording, are two different events. One thing you should understand about the Revelation. While John and the other disciples may have been thought of as ignorant men, that spoke in somewhat common vernacular, they walked with the Son of God for three years, and, they were obedient to stay put and receive the Holy Spirit – the Paraclete that would teach you all things. In a sense, John too became a Rabbi; a Rabbi who knew the words of Ezekiel too well. Is it any wonder that the terminology would be the same, and so precise.
God, was and is trying to convey a message. In Ezekiel, He is describing events that are going to come. Those events include the Messiah sitting in judgment over the nations; whereas in the Revelation, the events are specific to the seven-year period, known as the time of wrath; because of that timing, the firestorm against Gog may have already occurred.
A friend of mine with many skill sets recently stepped out in faith and made efforts to buy a ranch in Idaho (USA). While the houses where I live are small with no land and sell for $500,000, this ranch was a mere $250,000. They made appropriate arrangements, packed their house into a trailer, and then watched as things started to fall apart at the last minute. Money problems, escrow problems, and changes in the attitudes from some. He asked for prayer, and quickly. I wrote him back and said something to this effect.
I had climbed a few rock faces, when I was younger, but only within safe limits. Why just safe limits; because I was not brave enough to risk my life (effectively everything,) for the joy of seeing what was on the other side. Sometimes faith is just like climbing that a high rock face, only we are asked to push our limitations beyond our comfort zone. While you are climbing in places you have never been, pushing your limits and boundaries, occasionally risking your life, it is scary. But afterward, standing at the top looking at the beauty you would have missed, it is exhilarating. Faith is like that. What the Word of God presents to us, is a climb that challenges everything we know. There are inherent dangers, and God knows that; but He keeps trying to remind us that in reaching the top of the ascent there is a great reward, and a life spent with Him in glory, even if our lives down here on earth comes to an end.
All this stuff we surround ourselves with keeps us comfortable in our fear. I long for the life with Him, and I long to go out as a warrior. If writing makes me a warrior, then so be it; hopefully, you will join me.

As Joel Richardson says frequently, I could be wrong about the way I have conveyed prophetic events and their timing. I already know that I conflict with how Joel sees Revelation 19, but it is not my goal to confuse and mislead you. I try to convey these events I see in a way that is logical and makes sense given the context. I implore you to read and study; it is the only preventative for being deceived. 

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